MothmanDelorian @ MothmanDelorian @lemmy.world

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Where do you think this evidence should exist? Do you think the Jews and Romans kept birth records for the equivalent of working class people?

Again Im not claiming there was a messiah. Im not claiming miracles were real so put own that straw bale you keep returning to.

Ok and how do you think thousands of people all separated by massive distances all arrive on the same name and basic stories if they weren’t based on a single guy?

Why would you think Rome has records of random people? We cannot prove the existence of almost anyone from Rome that way other than the extremely wealthy and influential.

Do you have any actual historical education beyond secondary school? You don’t seem to

I have offered a source with multiple linked sources that explains why this consensus exists. If you choose to ignore that consensus of experts you are choosing to not accept what people who have spent decades working on this question which is your right but IMO is rarely the wise choice when you are uneducated on the subject.

What’s the proof fir this amalgamation idea you are claiming and how of you explain thousands of people all across that part of the world having the same beliefs and names for Jesus within 3-4 decades of his death and please remember this is 2000 years ago so news travelled slowly.

And you’re ignoring all the nuance explained there about why historians accept the existence of someone for what reason? It isn’t because you are educated in this field.

You keep trying build strawmen as Im not claiming Jesus was divine. Why?

Both groups want to establish a caliphate as theor primary goal.

Unfortunately after a single fire the force tosses the ship onto its side and is sinking

You should know you do not appear informed if you use clownish terms like Islamofascism which were created by racists to debase Islamic nations and peoples.

You know many of the Alawites ARE Syrians, right?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37235684

Are you sure you aren’t a transphobe? The statements on this screenshot suggest you might be or you have poor logic on this issue (trans people have no greater advantage than women who are naturally stronger and taller as well who you wouldn’t be arguing should be banned).

So you are going on the internet to prove you have no understanding of how things work?

Having cleaned many toilets it is nowhere nearly as unpleasant as the life risking work that can take place in a sewer system.

Unions are why we have labor rights.

Yeah Manhattan rent for office and home plus DC home. That has to be half of that salary right there.

edit: Two rents Im wrong about the office apparently.

All Im claiming is Yeshua existed and he was a rabbi around Galilee. The religion is likely very loosely based upon things he said as well as stuff people added (eg “render unto Caesar” is just saying pay your taxes).

Im not claiming historical evidence exists for the miracles.

We have things that other people who may or may not have known Aristotle claim Aristotle wrote. If you believe Aristotle and Plato were real people then you should accept that Jesus was based on somebody even if the message he was spreading isn’t the same as the faith maintains now.

Why not try reading the link rather than expounding upon a false understanding? For example the earliest writings are from around 70CE which is 37-40 years later. You shoildn’t be making any claims when you are making mistakes this simple because you clearly aren’t coming from an educated perspective.

I’m not saying Jesus Christ in the Bible is a historical figure. I am saying there was a real human being that was a basis for the faith.

And again all of this is based on what actual academic historians maintain not religious figures. What is your take based upon other than conjecture?

First to reduce the risks of bribery in theory. Secondly It isn’t that much when you start looking at the expenses they have to have. Keeping an apartment and office in your home district and a home in DC is expensive. They are at minimum paying rent on three places. It is why most are wealthy before they ran. That is intentional.

Bo we have writings we believe were written by Aristotle because other people from around that time say he did. We have similar things for jesus such as the writings of people who recorded the existence of people who followed a guy named Jesus a few decades after his death. It would ge really odd for people around the Mediterranean to all follow the teachings of a guy who they call by the same name who never existed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/259vcd/comment/chf3t4j/?context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/259vcd/comment/chf3t4j/?context=3

This is the answer in the FAQ which links to another as well.

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