Moneo @ Moneo @lemmy.world

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What does justified even mean in this context though? Are you in favour of capital punishment? Of vigilante justice?

Trump is a horrible person who, if elected, will harm the lives of very many people. I simply do not believe assassinating him is a legitimate tactic. There are so many problems inherent with political violence that I don't even know where to start.

To me, advocating for political violence is a position detached from reality. Akin to wondering why the western world doesn't simply declare war on Russia over their invasion of Ukraine. It may seem/be the morally correct thing to do, but the consequences of doing it are far reaching and extremely complicated.

Honestly idk what I'm trying to say other than I don't think violence against Nazis is an effective strategy. I think it's reactionary and short sighted and will only make the problem worse.

condemns advocating violence

Surely you're not talking about lemmy right? The past 5 days has been nothing but condoning and advocating for violence.

Right. We all agree that encouraging violence is bad.

Right lemmy?

RIGHT LEMMY?

We're always joking about "facing the consequences of your actions". Kyle is facing the consequences of his actions, why are you upset about it?

Most people think that encouraging violence is a bad thing and should be denounced, do you disagree?

Y'all are fucking weird. When a right winger makes comments encouraging violence, you denounce it and demand that person face the consequences of their actions. But the Trump assassination attempt has revealed to me that a lot of you are just as reactionary as right wingers. Trump is a horrible person and the world would be better off without him, but if you can't see why assassinating him is not only morally wrong, but also just a bad thing for anyone who has faith we can win the fight against fascism, then quite frankly you've lost the fucking plot.

Kyle went made a joke that condoned an assassination attempt hours after it happened. Literally everyone involved, including Jack Black, and Kyle himself realize that what he said was extremely inappropriate.

Literally everyone in the fucking world realizes that political assassinations are a bad thing, but y'all are over here in your bubble thinking it was totally justified because Trump is a horrible person.

Are you in favour of police brutality? Are you in favour of capital punishment? Why do you get to decide which violence is appropriate and which violence is inappropriate?

Seriously fucking annoyed with Lemmy's user base right now.

Even mild solutions get shouted down. In Canada we have a carbon tax that mostly ends up getting returned to Canadians in the form of a rebate. Reportedly 80% of Canadians receive more from the rebate than they spend on the tax.

The conservative party have managed to politicize the tax and seem poised to win the next election, with "scrap the tax" being a big part of their platform. We have a province literally going rogue and refusing to pay the tax, causing our tax agency to garnish them essentially.

Shit is fucking wild. All over a marginal tax that benefits poor people and punishes the heaviest polluters. People are so fucking stupid and selfish it drives me fucking nuts.

Or just fund public transportation instead :)

Public transportation, walkability, cycling infrastructure, and public spaces. Why are you so convinced I'm foaming at the mouth hating on america. I'm just a dude who thinks our cities suck.

It's weird that having a differing opinion of what makes a city world class means I'm "mindlessly shitting on america".

It's just my opinion. A world class city imo should have excellent public transportation, cycling infrastructure, parks and public gathering spaces, and traffic calmed commercial districs. Basically a world class city should have a lot of things worth visiting and infrastructure that lets you visit those places easily and comfortably without relying on a car.

No north american city meets those standards in the way that some european cities do.

This fucking narrative of bringing up trump every time someone questions Biden as a candidate is so fucking obnoxious.

We all know trump is senile and fucking insane. His voters are insane. We're talking about wether or not Biden is the best candidate to defeat him. Not everyone agrees with the narrative that swapping candidates right now is a bad idea.

Then why did you make it so beautiful in the first place

Imagine thinking the only reason your city should be a beautiful place to be is so that tourists can enjoy it.

I feel like you're missing the point. It's a protest, and they found an effective way to make their point. These tourists had their day ruined at worst, they'll get over it.

It's a protest. Same thing as climate protestors blocking the roads, no the individual commuters are not responsible for climate change, but the blocking roads is an effective way to draw attention to the issue.

Protests need to be disruptive or they won't be effective. These tourists had their day/lunch ruined at worst, the protestors are fighting for affordable living in the city they live in and they clearly have found an effective way to protest.

So yeah no, I feel bad for the tourists but that's about it.

Yup. Sucks to be those tourists for sure but it's not like they were in danger.

heheheh

European cities also waste less money maintaining sparsely populated suburbs.

Honestly, as a Canadian I don't think north america has any world class cities.

hehe. You're implying gay people aren't regular people.

thissssss

Am I the only one who doesn't mind vacuuming? I'm in a 1 bdrm apartment so maybe thats why, but it's by far my "favourite" chore.