Meowoem @ Meowoem @sh.itjust.works

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Yeah people really should experience candycrush before laughing something like this off, it's genuinely addictive.

You can replace her with whatever music you associate with, what I'm getting at is your connection to it isn't real - it feels real but that's because it's coming from you, you're putting the meaning in there.

If you could erase all memory of Bach from a classical obsessives mind then play them his greatest hits and say it's from an AI they'd say 'ugly key smashing meaningless drivel' maybe they'd admit AI Brahms has some bangers but without the story behind it and the history of its significance it's not as magical.

The problem I have is people are to addicted to shortcuts, 'oh this is Bach people say he's great so this cello suite must be good therefore I like it' it's lazy and dumb. (I use Bachs cello suite as an example because it's what's on the radio but you can put any bit of music as the example)

Ha no you are right, I was being a dick - i worked long enough in the music industry that it's scarred my soul and just thinking of it brings up that bile...

But yeah I was just being silly with the band descriptions, I was describing some of the music I like in a flippant way to highlight the absurdity of claiming some great artistic value because Ozzy mumbled about iron man traveling time for the future of mankind - dice could come up with more meaningful lyrics than 'nobody helps him, now he has his revenge' is the sort of thing an edgy teenage coke head would come up with -- it's one of my favourite songs of all time, another example of greatest songs of all time is Rasputin by boney m, famously part of a big controversy when people discovered they were a manufactured band and again the lyrics and music are both brilliant and awful.

People obsess over nonsence all the time, it's easy to pretend there's some deep and holy difference between Bach and Offenbach but the cancan can mean just as much as any toccata if you let it.

Art is in the eye of the beholder, it has always been thus and will always be thus.

This post is disturbing and weird, you have a very odd and creepy view of the world.

Obama is just a random person voicing a safe and middle of the road politically neutral option in response to a boring question, I wouldn't put too much stock in his kneejerk responce to a new technology.

Anyway all I wanted to ask is what do you mean by it costing A LOT? The price of creating media has fallen insanely in the last five decades and is only continuing to plumet - processor power likewise, it's very likely we'll be able to not just run the models on consumer graphic cards as we can now but run them as background processes on our phones without noticing slowdown. Just like all other modern content we're going to see the free stuff that people make and share displace the hacky old corporate stuff - people that like history documentaries don't watch history channel they which YouTube and a couple of ken Burns level creations, same with science and tech and so many other types of content.

When a kid in their bedroom can make a movie that looks as good as marvel and has a powerful soundtrack that carries the action and moves the heart no one is going to care if they created the music in a weekend talking to AI or hired a generic studio musician to string together some standard progressions and pachelbell melodies - likely they'll prefer the ai output anyway because it'll fit the artist vision more than a hired chord ever could.

There are going to be creative geniuses that use AI to make amazing things and at some point you're just going to have to accept that.

This is the reality a lot of people don't want to face, a huge amount of popular music is just established patterns put together in the way music school teaches is the right way then pushed with endless hype from the money hungry corporations.

We are absolutely going to see a kid in his bedroom use AI to make a concept album that resonates with people and garners popular acclaim - I don't know when it will happen but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's this decade.

People used to say that same nonsence about samplers and drum machines, it's the same trend as when people said Shakespeare isn't poetry because he hadn't been trained in Latin and Greek enough or Cezanne wasn't a real artist, or a million other times people have confidently declared we're at the end of history and nothing new will ever be good.

What people need to remember is when they see Rick Astley singing his heart out it's lyrics written by Pete Waterman and music from session artists put together by university trained professionals to shift units - soulless music has been a thing for a long time and no one ever cared before.

Obsessive kids have been making great music in their bedroom for decades now, aphex twin gets industry acclaime for twiddling some knobs and so will whoever gets popular doing the equivalent interesting things with AI.

I think musk is dumb but he's engineer dumb, when you hear him talk about rockets with other rocket nerds he does actually know what he's talking about - he's not like rocket scientist level understanding but having someone in charge of the money that actually understands and is interested in the principles and practicalities of the task at hand is kinda huge in today's corporate world.

His problem in Tesla comes from his ability to understand more of the technical situation than most the money people he knows as that's led him into making some exaggerated claims and pushing through some half baked ideas. The business model for the gigafactory was fantastic, the initial development seemed promising but when he had problems with automation and flow rate that caused so many delays he wasn't really accounting for that - he could design a great science fiction factory but it got to the point he couldn't pay people to make his ideas work because they're not problems you can just brush under the rug - the cybertruck one piece press seems to be an attempt at circumventing problems he already faced with more wishful thinking 'theoretically we can just...' classic engineer bravardo, it's not a bad idea but it's going to result in tradeoffs and I think we can already see that in how shitty the production version looks compared to the original design.

Elons biggest mistake of course is another classic engineering student error 'I'm much better at engineering than other people who don't study engineering, that must mean I'm better than them at the things they study too...' I think he genuinely thought that rubbing a social network would be really easy for him, he had this idea that the evil fun police were artificially limiting his engagement and all he needed to do is get rid of the bias against him and everyone would see how great he is at reposting ten year old memes and hail him as a hero of the world..

What I'm getting at is you can't be as dumb as Elon by actually just being dumb, it takes intelligence misdirected to be such an idiot.

Someone I watch was sponsored by a PCB fabrication company and the way he described their service I realized I could save a lot of time and money doing it that way.

I don't think advertising always has to be manipulation, it could just be making you aware of the advantages of a product. Though most adverts are nothing but lies and bullshit.

Yeah, personally I enjoy seeing adverts for things I think are dumb because it's like a shitty game company is paying my favourite creators to amuse me and they're doing it by collecting money from rubes that'd only be wasting their cash on something worse anyway.

It feels like the sort of thing a chaotic hero would do in a cyberpunk romance.

Germany has the most renewables per capita of any European nation and have been heavy investors for a long time now.

As someone from a country that doesn't have guns I always find these conversations so fascinating, so much to learn. If I'm reading the gunnuts in this thread right there's no need for anyone to have a big gun because the little ones are exactly as deadly.

Why do the nuts all obses about having the silly over sized guns then? Surely it doesn't make any difference if they ban the ones that are oversized for show?

That's a parasocial relationship and it's not healthy, sure Taylor Swift is kinda expressing her emotions from real failed relationships but you're not living her life and you never will. Clinging to the fantasy of being her feels good and makes her music feel special to you but it's just fantasy.

Personally I think it would be far better if half the music was ai and people had to actually think if what their listing to actually sounds good and interesting rather than being meaningless mush pumped out by an image obsessed Scandinavian metal nerd or a pastiche of borrowed riffs thrown together by a drug frazzled brummie.

Music snobs have been doing this for decades, pretending to like the shittiest pink Floyd b-side because the normies don't get it and acting like Abba's entire catalogue isn't solid bangers because disco isn't cool, until it was again then they'd always loved it.

It'll be just like it always is, Pete Seagar with an axe trying to stop Bob Dylan playing an electric guitar. I remember when people hated d&b and said it wasn't real music and all that shit now they're all telling bullshit stories about how they were og junglist massive.

People will use ai to make really cool things and a loud portion of the population will act superior by pretending it's bad, time will pass and when the next thing comes along all those people will point at the ai music and say 'your new music will never be as good as real music like that' but the people listening to atonal arithmic echolocation beats to study to or whatever the next trend is won't pay them any attention.

Yeah, like most people don't realise but until about 1900 most piano music was played by humans, of course there were no pianists after the invention of the pianola with its perforated rolls of notes and mechanical keys.

It's sad, drums were things you hit with a stick once but Mr Theramin ensured you never see a drummer anymore, while Mr Moog effectively ended bass and rhythm guitars with the synthesizer....

It's a shame it would be fun to go see a four piece band performing live but that's impossible now no one plays instruments anymore.

People are never going to stop learning to play instruments, if anything they'll get inspired by using AI to make music and it'll get them interested in learning to play, they'll then use ai tools to help them learn and when they get to be truly skilled with their instrument they'll meet up with some awesomely talented friends to form a band which creates painfully boring and indulgent branded rock.

I be you do know plenty of guys that do, it's easy to assume everyone thinks like you but that's not how humans work.

Yeah, that's why I mostly took my retirement in my twenties and thirties when you can enjoy it. In my forties I'm having to work to pay back the debts and survive and stuff but that's made bearable by the knowledge of drugs which I gained early in life. If I somehow accidentally make it close to sixty I want to have enough credit score that I can start borrowing again, I'll be able to do it a lot more illegally this time and enjoy my twilight days until one of the gangs I owe vast sums to catches up to me and organizes a burial at sea.

Frequency of nice things said about me per year, especially as a ratio of good to bad.

I'd be fascinated to know what the peek's correspond to

It explicitly states the coffee has a higher IQ, not temperature.

Normally I don't care about sloppy use of English but when the meme is trying to be smarmy and act clever then yes I expect it to be correct.

Part of the problem is the nation is so fractured and at its own throat that finding someone that more than ten percent of the voters aren't instantly repulsed by is almost impossible.

It feels like there's an endless list of reasons the left will reject someone and many of them overlap and contradict.