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It's not what he said that got him in trouble, it was disrupting the event and refusing to leave. Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to stand on top of a fast food counter and yell about politics either. If they ask you to leave, you must leave. Stop being so obtuse.

Lol, what a ridiculous take. He'd have been locked up if he did that in a movie theater, let alone at the State of the Union address.

I prefer the biblical version:

"Hear ye, hear ye, if he who is not humbled before the Lord shall fucketh around, surely I tell you that he shall findeth out."

-DudeYou'reOntoMe 33:16 (Lebron James version)

Yeah, it really feels like every toddler figures this out for themselves. He just said it succinctly.

If you say it really fast, it sounds like fleshlight.

Kinda settin the bar a little high here for Lemmy posts, ain'tcha?

I'll start an argument: calling the walkers a name that sounds like the word "at" twice or calling them "Haiti-Haiti" minus the H are both acceptable.

Well, fair enough for sure. Let's just both agree that those people suck and I genuinely hope you're enjoying your phone of choice!

Seems like our only disagreement is just how many of the evangelicals there are. I used to do tech support for iPhones about 10 years ago and I'd say maybe one out of every 30 callers or so were the rabid fanboy types you describe. But that sample was skewed too because I was pretty much only talking to people having an issue with their phone. Hardly anyone was an Apple fan after 20 minutes on hold lol

Cheers and good talk!

But the majority of Apple and Iphone users

There are over 135 million iPhone users in the US. What's your sample size to be saying that a majority of users want to tell you how great their product is? Are you sure you're not oversampling the loud ones? That is, it's easy to count the people who try to convert you, but how easy is it really to count the people who just don't care? Some of them have likely overheard your conversations about phones and just kept on walking or doing their own thing.

Maybe it is not in your circle and you are then actually lucky.

Is it that I'm lucky or that you're unlucky? Both would shift the window of perception in the same way.

I would suggest that people who want to pretend their decision-making is better than yours (especially regarding personal preference) sound like the type of annoying people that I avoid. Sorry you have to deal with them though! Those people suck whether they're talking about their phones, shoes, cars, clothes, consoles, beer etc.

Not the content I deserve, but the content I needed.

amigo

i think the ire is because Apple fans believe it without questioning it, like flat earth believers being told that by a religious leader.

Sweeping generalization. What percentage of iPhone users are you suggesting that are like this? How would you even prove that? Marketing might get us to try something but we make up our own minds after that. You'd have to be imagining that the people that line up at the stores for days are actually representative of the iPhone using population. They're the fringe. Are most of us not numb to marketing by now anyway?

Even my apple fan coworker is always trying to convince me to move to IOS, for "new" features, and I have to say dude I have been doing that forever, I would gain nothing by moving to IOS and lose a ton of technical abilities where I use my phone like a PC...but people can't be convinced of what they already believe

Sounds like you made the right choices for you and I'm genuinely glad for you for that. Your issue is in thinking your logic should be everyone else's as well. The difference between us is that I also believe the Android fans chose their phones correctly based on what they prioritized. I have no reason to assume that such huge groups of people dealing with limited resources aren't distributed evenly across a spectrum of being discerning and of being frugal. There's hardcore fans throwing money at them that they don't have and on the other side there are people with plenty of money that just wait till the renewal is up and get the cheapest model and don't care much.

Can we pretend that I shared the "I understood that reference" Captain America meme right here where it belongs?

43 percent thought God helped Tim Tebow throw touchdowns. Let's keep this going.

What keeping this going might look like: Less than half can name all 3 branches of US government, with 26 percent unable to name a single branch.

Only about one third of Americans know that it's Thomas Jefferson on the nickel.

These people vote.

I'm afraid this will be underappreciated, but you have my upvote.

..and my axe (or something)

Please elaborate while I find some popcorn.

That's more specific than the average criticism, and while valid...why would anyone direct their ire for a company's marketing towards their consumers? I can't even count the amount of time I've heard folks online claim that Apple users only buy the phone for the image and because of their marketing etc. iPhones have been around for 17 years now, and people just like them. The standard complaint is that Apple fans are clueless etc. but people spend all their lives managing limited resources. It's wildly ignorant to assume they can't choose products for themselves. The simple fact is that iPhones are worth the money to the people who buy them, period.

I think it's being pointed out that people who share your experience generally have a pretty extreme lack of awareness which everyone else can easily notice.

An announcement about a new iPhone or iOS feature will inevitably have Android supporters bashing on literally every single person that owns an iPhone, making childish character judgments about strangers.

If an announcement about Android happens though, you do not get a bunch of iPhone users looking to criticize the Android fans at all. We just don't care to go through such a pointless exercise that is willfully engaging in extremely poor logic. It's raw and unfiltered stupidity to generalize about any huge group of consumers solely based on a product they use. Use whatever you like.

Incorrect. The argument makes perfect sense, you just gave a reason for why the example's initial point seems obvious. Proofs don't need to be fancy or make novel arguments to be effective. It's math, where the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.