MarxMadness @ MarxMadness @lemmygrad.ml

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The point here is that you don't even know the basic facts you're talking about. Russia didn't want Crimea in 2022; they already had it.

It's also laughable -- genuinely embarrassing -- to suggest Russia is trying to conquer all of Europe. Pure fantasy plucked straight out of thin air.

As for deterrence, that's already been accomplished, especially if you believe the casualty numbers Ukranian propaganda puts out. Clearly there is a cost to war. The goal now is to end the fighting on as favorable of terms as you can realistically get.

It’s literally across the Bering strait.

Damn you really can't point out Ukraine on a map lmao

That's not a serious negotiating position when Russia is winning. Shit like this is getting people killed.

You apparently don't

Crimea had been in Russian hands for nearly a decade when Russia invaded.

Russia never said it was going to be a three day operation. That was Lukashenko; you're getting the basic facts of the situation wrong.

Losing slow doesn't mean you had a realistic shot at winning, either.

That would kill millions at minimum and likely result in nuclear war. It's utterly psychopathic to cheerlead this and totally detached from the horrors you're wishcasting. Disgusting.

sometimes you need to punch a bully in the mouth to protect the subject of their bullying

How would you describe what Azov paramilitary groups were doing in eastern Ukraine from about 2014-2022

This is so gutless. "Well sure I'd prefer unicorns and rainbows but KILL KILL KILL"... just say what you really mean and stand by it.

As an expert in "hugely hammered," I'll believe it when I see it.

Ok, now make an argument for Harris that isn't "Trump Bad"

We know he is, the problem is Harris is bad, too.

I will very much enjoy not being rounded up by the Department of Homeland Security for it.

Run this one by all the people beaten and arrested for protesting the genocide we're funding in Palestine.

If Trump gets elected again… I think the possibility of Palestinians getting exterminated becomes a genuine possibility, and the damage to our climate and our ability to reverse course after four years look very fragile.

Biden has given unconditional support to Israel, and had even circumvented Congress to give them more material support. Biden has not only done nothing of substance to fight climate change, but has approved more federal oil drilling permits than Trump.

If Trump did the things Biden did, Democrats would correctly call him a war criminal and threat to the planet.

No chance he backs out of the debate. He loves the audience, knows backing out would look weak, and he's not going to have the polling lead he'd have had against Biden.

Everyone involved in covering up his senility should resign or be forced out.

As soon as the land of any country has all become private property, the landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed, and demand a rent even for its natural produce.

Card-carrying member of the Communist Party Adam Smith

Maybe the market isn't the best way to distribute a basic human need

The leftist frustration with liberals comes from statements like this:

maintain stability instead of shedding blood

You cannot maintain the stability of capitalism without shedding blood. There is no option where no one gets hurt; violence is baked in to the status quo. How best to reduce the amount of violence in society is another question, but the false dichotomy of stability vs. violence is the root of the disconnect here.

I think you are vastly underestimating the horrors of most pre-revolutionary societies, and probably also overestimating what you describe as oppression in post-revoltionary governments.

On the first point, here's an excerpt from a JFK speech where he describes pre-revolution Cuba:

The third, and perhaps most disastrous of our failures, was the decision to give stature and support to one of the most bloody and repressive dictatorships in the long history of Latin American repression. Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in seven years - a greater proportion of the Cuban population than the proportion of Americans who died in both World Wars, and he turned Democratic Cuba into a complete police state - destroying every individual liberty.

And JFK was no friend of Castro; he greenlit the Bay of Pigs invasion! Revolutions are born from the most brutal forms of exploitation and violence. Not even the wildest anticommunist propaganda about post-revolution Cuba comes close to the reality of what the revolution replaced.

I align with the political right on some issues, and the left with others.

What are some examples of these issues?