MarxMadness @ MarxMadness @lemmygrad.ml

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1. Do you care about people living in destitution or not? If you do, why punish them for their government?
2. The puppet government the U.S. propped up had no internal legitimacy, as evidenced by it disintegrating before the U.S. had even fully left the country. You shouldn't skate on terrorizing a country for 20 years because your agreement to help recovery was made with the sham government you assembled, that no one in the country actually wanted.

If the evidence shows few people support the government, you believe it; if the evidence shows many people support the government, that itself is evidence of government threatening its people. This is an unfalsifiable position; you've just decided you don't like the government no matter what the evidence says.

The 90% figure is also from the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. Do you think they had the wool pulled over their eyes?

Funny, I was just telling @Cowbee about how the tankies I see on here are insufferable & impossible to converse with.

You don't see how writing shit like this is insufferable and impossible to converse with?

If China is a socialist state worth supporting then I’m a donkey with a laser dick :P But I’m more anarchistically inclined

Chinese state propaganda

Pretty easy to see your views on China, which sound an awful lot like the State Department's. If I'm reading too much into what you're saying, tell us what you really think about the PRC.

It means "anyone who does not immediately believe the most lurid rumors about the Bad Countries"

Comparing different countries' actions in similar circumstances is the very foundation of international law. "The international community didn't consider this similar incident a breach of international law, so it shouldn't consider my much smaller version of the same thing a breach" isn't whataboutism, it's an argument advanced in and accepted by the ICJ all the time.

These types of comparisons usually aren't even used to excuse anything, either (and they aren't used that way here). The point of the comparison is to ask "do you have a principled opposition to this act that you would apply universally?"

I have a hard time imagining anyone who would stop listening at "communist" but not "tankie"

If you report it to HR and nothing is done then you can sue the company for a hostile work environment.

Good luck

Filing a lawsuit over a sandwich (or threatening someone, as OP mentions) is a comical overreaction anyway. There are a dozen simpler ways to solve the problem.

Project 2025 is scary, but it's also stuff Republicans have been trying to do since the 80s (as you point out). If Bush and Cheney couldnt do [insert horrible policy here] when they had power, if Trump couldn't do it the first time around, how are they going to do it now?

This shit isn't actually popular, a bunch of the money behind the GOP either doesn't want it or doesn't care (see the effect mass deportations would have on major companies' workforces), and we have even less competent people in the federal government than in the first Trump admin, which itself had even less competent people than Bush.

The Democratic Party doesn't believe this stuff, either (or they just don't care) -- otherwise they'd be bending over backwards between now and January to try and sabotage it. If they cared about mass deportations, Biden could issue pardons for immigration-related offenses. Congress could grant citizenship to large swaths of the immigrants population. But they're instead busy ensuring the smooth transition of power to people they spent the last decade calling fascists.

It's not even an AI thing; look at how widespread domestic surveillance was back in the 60s. In the years since it's only gotten easier to record messages and calls, match those records back to addresses or GPS-given locations, catch people on video, etc.

It's both overused in the way you describe and yet obscure enough that only terminally-online political people have even heard of it.

Why does the US need to solve the issue?

I agree -- the U.S. should stay out of the conflict by immediately ceasing all shipments of bombs and money to Israel.

If you still think Democrats actually care about a potential mass deportation, ask yourself why Biden hasn't simply pardoned all undocumented immigrants.

Immigration offenses are federal crimes, the president can pardon federal crimes, and you don't actually have to be charged with anything or convicted to receive a pardon (see Nixon).

Everyone I know voted. No one I know irl felt democrats didn’t go far enough left.

Yeah, if they thought Democrats were too far right they probably were among the 11 million who voted for Biden but stayed home this time.

Harris didn’t run as a Republican and you know it.

She touted an endorsement from Dick Cheney, said she'd put a Republican in her cabinet, and said she'd pass Trump's immigration bill.

for a party supposedly fighting against the rise of fascism, they didn’t try very hard at all.

They're also still in power until late January. Settling aside the very large question of "why would you willingly hand over power to fascists?", does anyone think they'll do anything to even make it harder for Republicans to do all the awful things they ran on?

Biden could pardon every person charged with a federal immigration crime tomorrow, with the stroke of a pen. He could then order everyone in ICE custody released immediately and fire everyone he can in that agency. If I was seriously concerned about Republicans deporting tens of millions of immigrants, this would be the bare minimum I'd do.

Yeah, having more than half the US population vote for fascism

Far fewer than half of eligible voters voted for Trump. This election was decided by people choosing to stay home rather than vote for Harris. Trump got about 74 million votes in both 2020 and 2024, but Biden got 81 million votes while Harris got only 70 million.

Americans are not getting more fascist, Democrats are just completely failing at offering them anything positive.

"Ignore the problem, hope you get rich enough to keep ignoring the symptoms"

About 16 million, I believe.

Bernie’s coalition was filled with the exact type of voters who are now flocking to Donald Trump... It turns out, the Bernie-to-Trump pipeline is real!

Except this election wasn't decided by voters switching sides, it was decided by something like 16 million Biden voters not showing up for Harris or Trump, who himself lost about 2 million votes from his 2020 total.

For those 16 million who sucked it up and voted for Biden in 2020, the choice this time wasn't Harris or Trump, it was Harris or staying home.