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Making picture in public of others is alreasy not allowed under GDPR,

So much for all the security cameras.

bullshit excuses people like you are using

People like you need to get your heads out of your own asses an look around at the real world, as it is today, and contemplate for a moment where it is inevitably going. Bitching about how improper video recording is on internet forums is likely to achieve exactly nothing against the commercial interests who will continue to make and sell the technology.

You are already no allowed to have a camera watching the public streeth

Unless you are the police running a traffic enforcement camera, no?

I don’t think it’s a good idea to share all the personal details of a cop.

I think there's a balance to be struck. Should the cop's home address be shared? No. Should their face, badge number and service record be public? Absolutely. I also agree that all public servant's salaries (including employees of publicly traded companies) should be public.

The more exceptions a law has the complexer it gets and the more some people can abuse it.

Agreed, but something as complex as "the police" isn't going to have one solution fitting all circumstances. Whatever the solution is, it should be simple enough to explain, clearly and accurately, to an average 12 year old.

what a public database of the people doing their job allows for.

Any database, public or private, can be endlessly abused. This is the crux of the GDPR.

People should be held accountable for their actions and everybody should be held accountable in the same manner.

Yes, but that has always been less than perfect in practice. Transparency is always the answer. Increased transparency with increased accountability for inequity is the right direction to be moving, not all at once, but gradual continuous progress in the good direction is what we should be seeking. Unfortunately, people lately are standing up and cheering for what they call a "good direction" that is composed of more lies, corruption and ultimately more secrecy about what's really happening.

Just because a photo is made in public doesn’t mean it is a public photo, or at least it shouldn’t mean that. Again, to protect civilians.

That's going to be the tricky part about a future where 200MP 60fps video cameras cost less than $100, and digital storage costs less than $100 per TB.

I feel that outlawing or otherwise restricting the use of cameras in general will go poorly. It has been hobby-level practical for the past decade to drive around with license plate reading software, building your own database of who you pass where and when, and getting faces to go with that tracking data isn't hard either - setup a "neighborhood watch" of a dozen or more commuters and you'll have extensive tracking data on thousands of your neighbors, for maybe a couple thousand dollars in gear. Meta camera glasses may be socially offensive, but similar things are inevitable in the future - at least in the future where we continue to have smartphones and affordable internet connectivity.

Even if it's outlawed, that data will be collected. What laws can do is restrict public facing uses of it. Young people today need to grow up knowing that, laws or no laws, they will be recorded their whole lives.

Curious: how often in your field are people harassed out of work by politically motivated complaints?

Around here, restaurant owners are very vulnerable to that kind of harassment - they can literally be put out of business just by people complaining to the health department, with no real basis to the complaints. Its one thing that keeps restaurant owners out of politics.

All they have to do is close the public sources of photo IDs. The tool itself isn't anything special, anybody familiar with the tech can code something like this up in less than a day, hell ChatGPT can probably vibe code it for you.

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody.

IDK the specifics of GDPR (and GDPR is relatively new, so it will continue to evolve for some time...)

In my view: the police are public servants, salaries and pensions paid by taxes. They have voluntarily chosen to serve as public servants. Whole hosts of studies show that police who are actively involved with the communities they police, seeing, being seen, being known by the neighborhoods they work in, those police are more effective at preventing crime, defusing domestic disputes, etc. than faceless thugs with batons and guns who only show up when they are going to use their arrest powers to shut down whatever is going on.

If I were to write "my version" of the GDPR that I think the US should enact, there would be clear exceptions for public servants, including police and politicians. Now, you can get into the whole issue of "undercover cops" which is clearly analogous to "secret police" which may be a necessary evil for some circumstances, but that's not what is going on with OP's website. OP is providing a tool to compare photos to a public database of photographs of public servants - not undercover cops. By the way: performance is spec'ed at 1 to 3 seconds per photo comparison, so 9000 photos might take 9000-27000 seconds to compare, that's 2.5 to 7.5 hours to run one photo search.

the judges would actually follow the law (juries wouldn’t be able to exist for most cases)

A core tenet of the law is the right to trial by a jury of your peers.

Jury trials have a very similar flaw to democracy.

Think of an average person you know, how stupid are they? Now, realize that half the people out there are stupider than that.

An average randomly selected jury is going to be composed of 50% below average intelligence people.

let’s consider the wars, atrocities, assassinations, crises, and plagues they perpetuated and endured

Absolutely. And, while there's always atrocities and tragedies around the world, back in "those days" the height of civilization was still brutal and cruel. We, globally, seem to have improved the "bright spots" somewhat as time goes by - even if we still leave the bulk of global human population in poverty and oppression.

My point about the 75 years? There have been shorter flashes in the pan, and much longer ones, we're nothing particularly special - what is special about this era is the power that fossil fuels have endowed modern society with. We've done some good things with those, and a lot of bad too.

The God that helps survive all this evil is called Oneness (cooperation & empathy).

Capitalism, the relentless pursuit of profits, combined with modern fuel and machinery, is undermining that Oneness at unprecedented rates. If it is allowed to destroy the ecosystem, maybe a handful of human survivors can suffer a long period of healing and restoration through Oneness - but billions will die most unpleasantly in the meantime.

The US as a whole can't really achieve Florida levels of.... Floridaness. You need fewer good paying jobs, higher costs of living, lots more old retired people running things, more drugs - all kinds, sunburn and sweat instead of frostbite and snow to shovel.

Transparency is always the answer. Any changes which increase secrecy or decrease accountability are the opposite of progress.

Rather than figuring out how to stop people from wanting to run away to our countries, we prefer to exile these people, separate them from our society and, if at all possible, just make them not come into our countries at all.

Carrot and stick. Some people only understand hoarding their carrots and beating anyone within reach with their sticks.

The US has been the most powerful country in the world

For roughly 75 years.

France was strongly dominant under Napoleon for 15 years and didn't suffer too badly for 15 more years after that.

The period of the British Empire's global dominance, often referred to as the Pax Britannica, ran roughly 300 years.

The Roman Empire was dominant in the West for roughly 500 years, much longer in the eastern reaches.

The primary difference of the period of US dominance is that it has been almost entirely sustained by MAD - mutually assured destruction vs every other entity on the globe.

While it's true that the US survived all of those challenges of the past and had a pretty good run after WWII... was that just the coin toss coming up heads 10x in a row?

I just spun up a HTPC on Debian 12+XFCE. It "wasn't too bad" but it really was more time to configure it than under Ubuntu. Totally worth it, to me. With XFCE I'm getting the desktop I want, not the desktop Gnome thinks I should have. I have the features I want, and any feature I don't want is easily banished.

But, I must admit, getting to that final further from perfect Ubuntu/Gnome configuration probably took 1/4 as many "tech flex lifts" in vanilla Ubuntu as the Debian+XFCE install took. For Debian, I had to get sudo working for my default account - which involved a "su root" and otherwise running some programs directly out of /usr/sbin - easy stuff, when you know how. I also had to configure for auto-login with more than a simple checkbox in the installer process. The XFCE launcher panel configuration is "powerful" - meaning: more hands on. Then there's an annoying XFCE trait that I finally figured out, something about when the EDID connection glitches you get spurious "Monitor Settings" dialogs popping up. I forget if it was that one, or something else, but when I was trying to configure the dialog properly, one of the tabs wasn't showing until I resized the dialog window bigger - something that seemed like it shouldn't be necessary but definitely was because I looked all over for that configuration option, didn't see it due to the "hidden" tab issue, and finally got a clue from a blog post mentioning the need to resize the window to get to it... Canonical does polish off more of those rough edges, in Gnome. Then they make you wait for snap update activity by default - I'll polish my own rough edges, thanks.

The good thing about distro hopping is refining your setup to the point that "burning down the desktop" becomes a relative non-event, your important personal files are elsewhere - nothing of value gets lost if your desktop SSD goes Ollie North: "I'm sorry, sir, I don't recall..."

After 15 years, aren't you questioning: how far out on the bleeding edge do I need to be?

I mean, if the absolute most advanced bleeding edge is "where it was at" five years ago - isn't a stable system that's up to speed with where the good things were five years ago even better?

Mint is easy. Easy is good.

Even if you can configure your way through Arch to a killer custom system, is that really what you want to do every time on every computer in your life?

My advice: run a server (any server) or three, and keep your important / personal stuff there. It can be as simple as a Raspberry Pi with a big external SSD. The PC you use as a desktop environment should be easily built / configured from the base distro into whatever customizations you want, and you can either work with your personal files on the server, or mirror copies of them to your desktop system as appropriate (things like "living documents" should be primarily stored and backed up on servers, things like photo collections etc. can be stored on the server, but copied to the desktop for easy access like rotating wallpaper or whatever.)

If (when, really) any one of your systems goes down, it shouldn't be a big deal. If it's a server, restore from another server mirror / backups. If it's your desktop, install a new desktop and get your customizations off a server.

Of course this is an ideal, but keep in mind that SSDs are not "forever" devices, they do wear out and each single copy of your data will be corrupted some day. Spinning rust is even less reliable, in my experience, although I have one 2TB hard drive that has been online for more than 10 years now. It's mirrored, twice, on SSDs.

How do I dislike Ubuntu, let me count the ways:

• Desktop whiplash: Gnome, Unity, no Gnome...
• snap pushed into the default distro, long before it's a net-positive (and it's still not a net positive, IMO)
• You want this security update that somebody else published? Yeah, we want your money.

I've used Ubuntu heavily since 14.04 through 24.04... my new system installs are going Debian 12 with XFCE, and yes - I did evaluate Xubuntu, I'm actually typing this from an Xubuntu machine right now that's planned to be getting Debian if it ever needs a re-image.

Ubuntu wasn't a bad choice, still isn't a terrible choice, but if you're going to have to strip out snap by hand and deal with security updates by hand after 4-5 years and install a "niche" desktop version to get out from Gnome's rather inflexible view of things, might as well just go to Debian and be done with whatever "new deals" Canonical comes up with in the future.

I have a collection of about 8 machines around the house (a lot of Raspberry Pi) that I ssh around to from various points.

I have setup scripts named: ssp1 ssp2 ssba ss2p etc. to ssh into the various machines, and of course shared public ssh keys among them to skip the password prompt. So, yes, once you are "in" one machine in my network, if you know this, you are "in" all of them, but... it's bloody convenient.

There's no such thing as pure democracy in anything larger than an ancient Greek city-state, possibly today's HOAs - and you see how well they work.

What passes for democracy in todays' nations of millions (and even the HOA we chose to leave 12 years ago) is elected representative government where the voters trust their elected representatives to represent their interests - to varying degrees of success and failure.

What's lacking in, for instance, the US government for some time now is actual representation of the majority of the peoples' interests - unless the majority of the people actually enjoy being on the poor end of a growing wealth gap. Those voters who continue to elect representatives who perpetuate these policies are: getting the government they deserve.