Mane25 @ Mane25 @feddit.uk

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It's almost 20 years since the Fedora Project started, and I started with Red Hat just before that happened.

Celebrating 20 years this year!

Must be Civ IV - that whole series makes you lose track of time - start a game and that's the whole weekend gone; even now Civ IV with the Realism Invictus mod feels like it's got tonnes of gameplay still left in it for me.

That said, OpenTTD has been an enduring favourite of mine for the past few years and because of its flexibility it might surpass it in the long-term.

You think GNOME is mouse-focused? Perhaps more compared to a window manager but I usually touch my mouse less than I would in most other DE's.

I feel that way about the default GNOME apps as well, they all provide the basic functionality that most users need, since specialist users would install specialist apps anyway.

One extension I won't install is dash-to-dock or similar (I know some people like it and that's fine), because being made to switch to the Activities view once you have too many windows to alt+tab between provides a useful psychological prompt to close unused windows or move stuff to other workspaces. That's one of the things I most like about the GNOME workflow.

I really like it, the constraints works for me to enforce more efficient habits. I would say I'm not a naturally efficient person, I recognise that and, essentially, benefit from having a workflow created for me. With KDE, it has the customisability out of the box to create your own workflow, but I couldn't personally design a good workflow.

But I'm not everyone, of course, and I would say GNOME is not necessarily for everybody.

Good that you gave it a fair shot. I feel like a lot of people just throw a lot of extinctions at it first without trying to understand the vanilla workflow - I used to be one of them until I tried vanilla for about 3 months.

While it makes things less convenient I would still argue that's splitting hairs, everything in RHEL was in CentOS Stream and can be assembled from the source code there.

As for Fedora, the fact that it’s opt out instead of opt in concerns me. At least with Ubuntu it’s opt in.

Actually (it's buried in the discussion so I can't find it at the moment), Matthew Miller (I think it was him) gave Ubuntu as an example of how it might work in Fedora, i.e. you'll be presented with the option after initial install, it's not going to be something that's buried in settings.

Well, it is still open source, and even with new restrictions the majority of Red Hat's developer contributions are upstream, they are very much an open source company.

Fedora asked its community for feedback about a proposal to add opt-out privacy-conscious telemetry.

In both cases when all nuance is removed it becomes disingenuous and misleading, it's harmful because it's easier to spread such a black and white view compared to the truth and people end up making decisions based on it.

RH Closing source code and adding telemetry to Fedora

Neither of those statements are true, it's a shame when people make decisions on bad information.

This has been one of the most overly milked and sensationalised stories I've seen.

They seem to be posting them in their own communities, not spamming them everywhere else. Just don't subscribe to those communities.

Of course not, but thanks for the sanity check. Do the Popeye ones come with extra spinach I wonder?

I've heard of eight of these and I've tried four. Are any of them better than Belgian frites?

However, Mr Johnson’s office said his team was still working with government security officials on how best to switch on the old phone

Firstly it seems really funny that a team of government security officials are "figuring out" how to turn on an old phone when my own phone is probably older.

But secondly it would be really trivial for someone with basic technical knowledge to extract the memory storage component and recover the data even if it never turned on again.

Yeah, there's no company I would trust less than Oracle, and I wouldn't have even believed that even they would stoop so low to offer this criticism given their own history. My memory is longer than a few years, Red Hat is a company that has a history of acquiring other companies for the purpose of open-sourcing its codebase. Oracle has a history of ruining anything open source that it acquires.

Is that a loophole though? I don't really like tomato sauce on my pasta anyway, I'm not replacing tomato sauce on my pasta with anything new, I'm just making how I like it anyway, access to tomato sauce is irrelevant.

Yast to me looks reassuringly old and sturdy.

(I mentioned most of this in another thread recently.)

I couldn’t fully get on with TW when I tried it because of very large updates appearing at random, which is due to its rolling nature. The problem I had is I would see a massive load of new packages that I didn't have time to install, and I would wonder “can I leave this for now or is one of those a critical patch?”. On Fedora, my distro of choice, it’s a no-brainer, I just do the upgrade every night and the big version update twice a year when I’m ready. On TW you have more of an entanglement of major feature updates and regular essential patches which are hard to separate out. I prefer the predictability of Fedora, and the release cycle gets the balance right of not having to wait too much to get the latest stuff.

Just to be clear though, overall I think OpenSUSE is a great distro, I'm being critical but it still probably would be my second choice.

Isn't that a security risk, or can you easily choose to just apply security-important patches? That was the problem I had, I'd see a massive load of new packages and wonder "can I leave this for now or is one of those a critical patch?" On Fedora it's a no-brainer, I just do the upgrade every night and the big version update when I'm ready.

I couldn't get on with TW when I tried it because because of very large updates, time-consuming updates appearing at random. Is that something you find? I prefer the predictability of Fedora.