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  • I think it'd be hard to look at the current state of things and think he made a mistake. At least he seems willing enough to get along.

    I've no shortage of criticism for the man and his actions, but this one I can applaud.

  • And it's not like he delivered flawlessly, he still has at least one part where he seemed to get lost, and the crowd covered for him.

    Did have real mixed feelings about the "Thank You Joe" chant. It was kind of wholesome in a way, but I imagine it feels bad to have been pushed out like he was.

  • Ah, thanks.

    For anyone coming later, the first half of the video is superfluous to the meme, start at 3:18. I agree with the video's interpretation of the first ruling, that that would be a reasonable use of a ready action.

    Otherwise, yeah, the meme is spot on.

  • Yeah, ok, that sucks. Oregon should still try to make actual polling locations available for people who need (or want) it.

    I still don't think that that's a reason to abandon vote by mail altogether. The accessibility of it reduces the impact of other voting problems we have in the us overall.

    I'm still going to push back hard on the idea that the system has to be 100% perfect. So long as humans are involved, that simply isn't possible.

    There are always going to be tradeoffs.

  • You're correct, I should have been more thorough.

    Here's one of the sources cited by that Wikipedia article:

    Mostly-Mail Elections (aka Vote-by-Mail, All-Mail or Vote-at-Home Elections) What Are Mostly-Mail Elections? In mostly-mail elections, all registered voters are sent a ballot through the mail. The voter marks the ballot, puts it in a secrecy sleeve or envelope if required, places it in a separate mailing envelope, signs an affidavit on the exterior of the mailing envelope or otherwise provides verification of their identify and then returns the ballot via mail or by dropping it off at an approved return location.

    Ballots are mailed out well ahead of Election Day, and thus voters have an “election period,” not just a single day, to vote. Mostly-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone. This system is also referred to as “vote-by-mail” or all-mail ballot elections. While “mostly-mail elections” means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on or before Election Day. For example, even though all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose instead to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day.

    According to this, "All mail elections" are not different from "mostly mail" elections, and doesn't preclude the use of in person voting.

    Also

    systems should make doing the wrong thing impossible

    Please no, imo that's an incredibly fucked line of reasoning

  • does that mean we shouldn't have phones or that tracking apps should be restricted?

    It is not my intent to equate "x has problem y" with "x should not exist" very good systems can and do get abused and misused.

    There's a reason I started my comment with

    Mail-in voting is objectively a good thing

    All I'm saying is that maybe there should be a way for people to go back and override their votes (which admittedly could probably also be abused in some situations), or better yet, just better social safety nets to help people get out of those situations. I'm not suggesting I have all of the answers, just acknowledging that the person at the top of the thread raises a valid, if possibly overstated, concern.