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  • Yeah, we did also practice other ways but it wasn't a requirement. Our requirements were grinding endurance stuff like pack all your stuff and carry it 12 miles. Then do a running rifle qual. (You're running until it's your turn to shoot, or really more like shuffling in this case)

    And the women were certainly hard, they just didn't get the same level of training because civilians couldn't handle the thought of them fighting. Which is ridiculous. They ended up on the front lines anyway, just less prepared.

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  • Yup. Every soldier needs to be able to fight. The last 20 years has seen enemies actively avoid attacking combat arms units and going after traditionally non combat units wherever possible. That and the ability to press anyone into the frontline is why everyone needs to be able to pass the test.

    Also, to make things even more interesting, combat units already hold their soldiers to a soft standard that's higher than non combat units. You won't get discharged for not meeting it but you will do extra exercises, get held back on promotions, and not go to schools for additional skills. If they thought their women weren't making the standard they literally just wouldn't promote them, and they'd highly encourage them to change jobs.

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  • I'm not going to down vote you over it because most people outside the military don't know. But the Army just spent 10 years making a fitness test that more closely resembles combat tasks. Hegseth is not saying this in good faith.

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  • Oh the current standards in the US military are absolutely enough to make sure women can carry their load. Hegseth is a massive misogynist who believes women shouldn't be in combat for all kinds of unscientific reasons.

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  • Unconscious person in a building gets dragged out. But your gut feeling is right. A fighting unit needs 3 times the people behind it keeping it going. And units already routinely send the people they don't want to use on the front line to fetch food and whatnot for everyone else.

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  • Because standards are first and foremost about maintaining a healthy force. Then they find a number that allows for being healthy and operating in combat. That's the minimum and you get points for going above that, and discharged for not meeting it. I guarantee you they aren't keeping women around as a DEI thing where they're only equal on paper.

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  • The Infantry already has a soft standard of scoring higher than minimum. You meet that or you get extra PT, no school slots, no promotions, and may even get transferred out of combat units. But also we've seen guys that did 180 (the minimum in 2003) operate perfectly fine in combat. This canard that combat arms needs more than a file clerk is just being used to exclude women. The minimum is actually high enough to operate in combat. Units are doing the higher soft standard because it's a way to operate at a higher level. But they will deploy someone doing a 180 on their test and put them in a squad that's fighting in a city after an 8km foot movement. Heck we would rather someone who scored the minimum but can walk with their gear than someone who scored higher but didn't have that walking endurance.

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  • We already have a gender neutral standard. Walk 12 miles in under 3 hours with gear and shoot at least 30/40 targets on the rifle range. If you can carry your load, shoot, and communicate, then you're going to be an effective combat soldier. Everything after that is promotion points and being healthy.