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No one is defending anyone for being anything but a human who deserves some amount of respect for simply being a human and being dead. You seem to be arguing that mutilation wouldn't even be offensive because they're in your opinion terrorists, that's fucked up.

I see everyone as a person, you're the one being selective about who does and does not deserve basic human decency. You are a terrorist but your own definition which is amusing in itself.

I never said anything that could be construed as for or against anything but basic morality. That in this case is literally what they were asked to be there for which in this case was a show of force against Russia.

Yes I can when it comes to what respect the dead deserve, it's not a political issue it's a moral argument. That said if all you do is talk shit on the Internet you're really not doing much but jerking yourself off and telling yourself you're doing something of worth, you aren't your just an angry bigot.

So every soldier is a murderer, gotcha. Any other idiotic platitudes do you have, every jew is greedy, every brown dude a terrorist?

Fuck off with that shit.

And you're trying to reduce them to a moral decision so you no longer have to see them as people.

So are you dumb guy perhaps with more steps but we all contribute to atrocities so should I disrespect you when you are dead?

Yeah that's just a long easy to say you're a bigot who likes to dehumanize people so their choices seem less morally dubious.

They didn't murder anyone you really aught to stop with that red herring.

They haven't murdered anyone.

You're the delusional one guy.

No it makes you a piece of shit to cheer on the death of anyone, you're no better then they are at that point.

Yep, that's sociopathy weird brag.

You're a fascinating type of stupid.

These dumb ass joes died in a training exercise by getting their vehicle stuck in the mud.

I swear to God you idiots are so excited to come up with the most idiotic "gotchas" that you don't even think about what is actually being talked about.

Says the person who is so giddy people they do not know died they're willing to pass judgement on the dead they've never met. You're a piece of shit.

Centuries and no periodically.

You used the term, it isn't based in fact but rather opinion which is an emotional basis. Terrorism = bad is inherently an appeal to emotion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

It's just what is called, read more and rant less.

That still means they should honor their troops, context in this case neither adds nor detracts.

Again, everyone understands what you're saying. We're simply trying to get you to understand how big of a piece of shit you are to be saying it right now.

You're literally making an emotional argument, "terrorist" isn't a factually based claim as one man's terrorists are anothers freedom fighters. You really aught not to be a grammer Nazi on top of a bigot, it's not a good look.

Pointing to the deaths of individual soldiers of these organizations.

It's literally the subject of the article, not terrorism, not war.

No dude, you're missing the point.

Tesla protestors, terrorists or protestors? If they die should I show them no respect. Draw some lines, let's see what kind of escher on crack artwork it comes out as.

No one is saying otherwise but again this isn't isis for one.

Sure if that makes you feel better.

I haven't actually said they aren't terrorist, you simply assume that to be the case because I show the dead respect. That difference therefore would be basic morality, the Geneva convention has provisions on how to treat the dead for a reason.

Why would I need to? I don't care what they do, once they're dead it doesn't really matter much. If you want to take out your hate on the defenseless I think that says more about you than them.

Point to one time where I said the US military is not a terrorist organization, go ahead I'll wait.

You're literally screaming at their funeral, you've made a discussion about the leader of these dead folks being disrespectful to their subordinates who have passed away and you've found a way to make it about yourself and your biases and feelings.

I throught it was fucked up for a number of reasons that they beheaded him and dumped his corpse at sea so he couldn't have a traditional Muslim service.

Some did surely, those in his organization especially so and I don't honestly think that helps your point but rather hurts it.

They don't, treating the dead well is about you not them. They can't be a piece of shit but you absolutely can be.

There is, you're being an especially stupid mouthpiece for ideology you hardly understand.

I would feel exactly the same way, I don't want anyone dead and I show them all respect in don't care who they are. It's not about them, it's about me and what I do that determines my character, not theirs.

They're quite different, neither are without flaw but saying they're the same is outright idiotic.

The US military existed before the country itself did and at that time we had no involvement in the middle east and wouldn't for around 60 years. Hyperbole is an pretty stupid option when you're making an already emotional argument based entirely on opinion.

having consistent moral compass with somehow being "selfish"?

Your compass only points to you hence selfish, it's not about you or your opinion on America you selfish and apparently farcicaly literate twat.

We all know what you're talking about, it's you who is confused about what we all are talking about.

The leader of a military that terrorizes the third world SHOULD honor his troops.

If anything it's good that he doesn't.

Logic much?

There is no honor to be placed in dying for American empire.

For the third time NO ONE IS ASKING YOU NOR I TO HONOR A GODDAMN THING. Do you need it in German, Korean? Screamed at you while being beaten aggressively with a spoon? What? English by itself clearly isn't working so what exactly do you think might?

They were in Lithuania training none so far as I'm aware are war criminals so far as I'm aware so you're simply assuming everyone in a uniform is a straight up murderer and deserves to die. You lack awareness, nuance and basic compassion, showing the deaf respect isn't for the dead it's for me and you to say what kind of person we are. You apparently are just an absolutely shitty human being.

Drive Uber, be a prostitute, join a gang.

Amazingly stupid.

Ps no one asked you to act like it's honorable at all, we're saying the president who leads the country you loathe so much needs to show the dead of their making respect.

You're so goddamn ego driven you can't figure out literally none of this is about you and your amazingly selfish self.

These particular people weren't war criminals, you're the one missing nuance to cram your narrative into inappropriate situations.

Your mother may be a whore but I'm still the asshole if I scream it at her corpse during her funeral.

It's not aesthetics, people died slow some respect when you're the one who ordered it. No one is asking you to have common decency, clearly you don't so I won't ask.

That's literally every military, but again you're ignoring the humans that died who didn't harm anyone and were involved in humanitarian efforts, let me say that again training efforts with an allied country not war. Stop being so much of a bigot you can't see the tree amongst the forest.

No one is asking for you to care about Putin, you're being obtuse. It's especially dumb with Russia because they're conscripts in a oligopoly who imprisons deserters and allegedly kills some.

These fuckin morons man, protest the war not the warrior. They're usually kids who joined for money not to be idealogs for bafoons to push their narrative.

No one is ignoring it. We're saying it's not more important at the moment the recognizing the death of the people you order. That's basic decency and their goddamn obligation as commander and chief. You seem to be the only one who is saying a belated conversation about imperialism is more important.

That's shitty behavior so I'm simply going to assume you're a shitty self absorbed person.

I'm describing the systematic roll-back of free travel, free trade, and freedom of individuals to co-mingle absent legal barriers.

Yes, periodically we just went over this and you seem to be intentionally missing the point and spouting random unrelated bullshit.

No one is talking about imperialism we're talking about basic human decency I have to assume you lack given this conversation.