M0oP0o @ M0oP0o @lemmy.world

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Did I stutter? Your silly two party system got you into this mess.

As amusing as it is seeing more "Don't blame me I voted for Kodos" statements I am reminded that the Simpsons also brought us:

"Okay, this should make my bosses very happy. Foreign Diplomat : Your bosses? George H.W. Bush : [signs the bill] Yep, all 250 million of them."

Is the illusion of a functional justice system in the room with us now?

The russian federation makes Japan look like a communist utopia in comparison. It is crazy that people still can not seem to figure out that russian federation ≠ the USSR.

And you can now say you helped!

Would it also be safe to assume you are an American (the country not the containment) citizen?

This is a story about a Swedish claim on russian interference in their internal politics with the assumed attempt of disrupting Sweden bid for NATO.

I hate to have to say this but making everything about the US is how you get a US centric world. I assume as you seem to think the cold war is still on (meaning russia is still the USSR) you would not have missed that the news cycle is full of US fuck ups, global missplays and dastardly acts. You seem to think that when there is an active war on in Europe and a European nation makes a statement about another European nation doing a bit of a nasty this is some how not the time for European issues but that we must now talk about the evils the US of A or the "west" in general has done before.

The problem is with the argument made by the article, which is that we should care about Russian meddling and we should act, or support actions, to stop it.

So, by your logic no one should care about anything any country does or does not do and global politics should become a mind your own business type affair?

I would also guess that you might just try and argue about how some meddling (ie russian) is fine though, somehow.

Oh its much older then the cold war "Tu quoque" style arguments go way back. I would still call it out no matter where or who it was directed at.

This is a post about a country doing something shitty, to then excuse shitty actions with a "but look at what other country does" is not calling out hypocrisy but to in fact encourage and endorse those shitty actions.

I am honestly looking for my defence of any "west" and coming up empty. And I think you might have just done whataboutism recursion. Neat!

Oh and yes, thanks for the "Hurdurr whataboutism!" I will remember to use that next time, it really gets the school yard vibe across.

I have and never will compare the two. I don't think anyone was expecting a contrast and compare with the USA (who I think only you have mentioned).

These "goal posts", you know the ones you set and rhetorically asked to provide evidence for....

"No. Stop projecting Western pathologies onto your enemies. Russia certainly has its share of the Western mind virus, but so many of its cultures were not even considered White by Europeans. You could do research for the next year and try to compile all the evidence of Russia being against brown people and it couldn’t hold a candle to even 1 of the Western European states."

I am sorry, but I must not be reading that right, I cannot parse.

Edit, much better.

Also did you see the comment about selective calling of whataboutism? Wild stuff, love to see it.

Ah Whataboutism, classic

Oh and:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337291231_The_Concept_of_the_'New_Soviet_Man'_As_a_Eugenic_Project_Eugenics_in_Soviet_Russia_after_World_War_II

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53055857

Oh and the current genocide (I am waving my hands in the general direction of Ukraine)

Neat the goal posts have already moved.

I guess I will just leave this here.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/EUR46/022/2006/en/