I'm aware. My point was that this wasn't a majority even besides that. Not sure why you seem to be phrasing this as a counterpoint, though, given that it reinforces my comment?
I said most of what I wanted to say in this comment, but I'd like to take an extra moment here to point out that you are currently making excuses for fascists.
Putting it bluntly, I don't give a flying fuck how many people voted for Trump – which wasn't the majority, by the way, since not everyone votes – there is no amount of votes that makes "doing fascism" okay. Trump is not a force of nature. He does not get absolved of blame. This rests on his shoulders more than anyone.
I'm so sick and tired of this gleeful throw-people-under-the-bus attitude that effectively dehumanizes people because they "voted wrong," as if there aren't millions of people among Trump's voterbase who were effectively tricked by an entire network of con-men and grifters. As if there isn't a giant oil-baron-funded media machine working tirelessly to convince people of a smorgasbord of lies.
I find it disgusting how easily you and others with similar takes will cheer on the suffering of your fellows. And let the Republican Party off scot-free in the process. Because apparently blaming a bunch of people who – let's be real – by-and-large don't pay attention to politics is apparently more important than blaming the people who're deliberately engineering mass suffering. Not to mention how you're currently partaking in schadenfreude over a problem that's affecting many people you ostensibly agree with and care about! Everybody in America has to deal with the consequences of this bill!
Nobody in the U.S. voted for censorship or for fascism, save an extraordinarily scant few terrible, terrible people. If you decide that vast swathes of people "deserve this" all because of that few, I don't think you ever actually wanted to help anyone so much as you wanted an excuse not to have to care.
The thing is, AOC herself spoke out against this bill according to this article. And I really, really want her to explain this one, as much as I do not expect that she will.
I don't know how in the world I'm expected to have any faith whatsoever in our governance at any level when even our ostensibly most progressive voices aren't willing to block blatant garbage like this.
So that's the set of options you were talking about, okay then. That was not clear.
In all honesty though, my response was somewhat motivated by the articles' defense of Shapiro, which felt less than honest considering how poor he is on the grand scale of things regarding the ongoing genocide. Given your response to ranandtoldthat below though I suspect we don't really disagree much on the Atlantic's not-so-great reporting on the topic, though.
attacking the least genocide friendly of the options
What options? Who does that set include? Because if we're talking all Democrats, then I think people like Rashida Tlaib are significantly better than Shapiro. His two wins are "supports a two-state solution" and "strong disdain for Netanyahu." but beyond that, it's pretty bad. Personally, I don't find much faith in his good statements either, since his actual actions are counterproductive to either of those two views.
Many of the comments here provide salient criticism you've chosen to ignore. I don't know why you're even here anymore if you're just going to fight everybody and plug your ears when they call you out.
There's also something of a middle answer: Trump & co. don't know where Garcia is because they haven't tried to find him. Why would they? They don't care, and neither does El Salvador.
Several months back, we had a user who would post articles about China almost every day, to several places across Lemmy. They did this for months straight, and eventually some other users showed up for a bit just like them. It took a lot of pushback for them to leave.
It was frustrating as hell, because suddenly I 1) couldn't avoid hearing about China when I went on Beehaw, and 2) started to reflexively ignore any articles about China because I couldn't trust them anymore. They were almost exclusively negative, they'd get posted ridiculously often, and occasionally they'd just be outright racist in the tried-and-true "we considered this acceptable/ignorable until it happened in China" sense. You don't listen to people who post like that. Months after they left, I finally started to be able to actually take headlines about China seriously again, and it was nice!
And now here's you, starting up almost the exact same posting pattern those users had. I don't know if there's a Lemmy instance somewhere that just has a bunch of folks like you and you keep wandering over here, or if you're one of those users back with new account. I barely care which it is. I just really don't want this shit back.
I'm very much in agreement with Eno here, actually. I could imagine a world very easily in which LLMs and image generators didn't just "have use cases," but was actually revolutionary in more than a few of those cases. A world in which it was used well, for good things.
But we don't live in that world. We live in one where it was almost entirely born under and shaped by megacorps. That's never healthy to anything at all, be it new tech or be it the people using it. The circumstances in which LLMs and generative models were developed was such that nobody should be surprised that we got what we did.
I think that in a better world, image generation could've been used for prototyping, fun, or enabling art from those without the time to dedicate to a craft. It could've been a tool like any other. LLMs could've had better warnings against their hallucinations, or simply have been used less for overly-serious things due to a lack of incentive for it, leaving only the harmless situations. Some issues would still exist – I think training a model off small artists' work without consent is still wrong, for example – but no longer would we face so much of things like intense electrical usage or de-facto corporate bandwagon-jumping and con-artistry, and the issues that still happened wouldn't be happening at quite such an industrial scale.
It reminds me how before the "AI boom" hit, there was a fair amount of critique against copyright from leftists or FOSS advocates. There still is, to be sure; but it's been muddied now by artists and website owners who, rightfully so, want these companies to not steal their work. These two attitudes aren't incompatible, but it shows a disconnect all the same. And in that disconnect I think we can do well to remember an alternate chain of events wherein such a dissonance might've never occurred to begin with.
You can't expect voter participation to be high when they believe their vote doesn't matter, nor if the candidate you want them to vote for is decidedly uncompelling. Democrats made the latter true and Republicans have worked hard to try and make the former true. What do we expect, in that scenario?
Voting more could have avoided this, yes. But the lion's share of the blame does not lie with voters.
I'm aware. My point was that this wasn't a majority even besides that. Not sure why you seem to be phrasing this as a counterpoint, though, given that it reinforces my comment?