Lugh @ Lugh @futurology.today

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So this is a roundabout way of saying the Israelis were about to add famine to their list of war crimes.

I think I might try that approach, you're right it could motivate a subset of people. We have a pinned post spot at the top of the sub-reddit I'm going to use again in a few days. When I used it before, I'd guess a few thousand people read the post, but it seemed to generate very few people moving to the Lemmy site.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/

Slightly off-topic, but how are you finding encouraging Reddit users to make the switch to Lemmy?

I mod r/futurology, which is close to 20 million subscribers, but most of the growth for futurology.today has come from within the fediverse. Any tips for encouraging Redditors to migrate?

Great info. Out of curiosity what does your hosting setup say about visitor numbers? Futurology.today uses Cloudflare. They give a figure of about 10k per day for what they call unique visitors. That seems unduly high when you look at how busy our lemmy instance actually is. We have just short of 1K subscribers, so I would assume visitor numbers would be lower than 10k per day.

If you haven't seen any of the classic late 60s/early 70s horror movies, they are worth checking out. 'Rosemary's Baby', 'The Exorcist, 'Don't Look Now', or 'The Omen' are all fantastic.

It should also worry investors open-source AI is only months behind the big tech leaders. I looked into AI voice cloning lately. There's a few really pricey options. Like $25 a month for a couple of hours voice cloning.

However, there's already an open-source version of what they're selling.

I wonder when this is going to seriously affect world oil demand? People used to think "Peak Oil" would be when supply was constrained, it turns out it will be when demand is constrained.

A US company just announced 1,800 new jobs manufacturing 10GW of solar power for India. Those post-coal jobs are out there, it would help if government bodies helped bring them to where they are needed.

Ukraine deserves to be in the EU, but they've a long way to go, and its not just the war. They have a vast corruption problem which needs fixing before becoming one with the other EU nations. The EU should start a process that ties progress on that, to getting nearer to EU membership.

Yes, its hard to understand. On the other hand our results on cloudflare look way too good to be true. They say the fediverse site had 180K unique visitors in its first month and almost 3 million of what it calls "total requests".

It's hard to figure out what this means in terms of how many people on the fediverse are seeing the content, both from our site, and where its coming up in federated instances.

and why would they? ........... they are pretty happy with what they have now.

Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who've setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.

My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn't too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.

But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it's expressing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/

It's hard to know exactly how many people see them from the stats Reddit gives Mods. Reddit gives a figure within the post for views, which stands at about 160,000 for the post I mentioned. That includes the times people have been served the title in their feed & and the times people clicked on it (sadly Reddit doesn't differentiate further).

The fediverse site has been going for 6 weeks and has about 620 subscribers. My guestimate from looking at addresses in comments is that maybe 100-150 are reddit migrants. So roughly speaking 1 in 1000 r/futurology people who saw something about our fediverse site were motivated to join.

A sobering thought for people who think the fediverse is about to crush reddit.

I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I'm one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It's been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.

This is despite the fact we've permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.

Maybe I'm missing something, when I try to interact with Mastodon from futurology.today there's zero ability to interact. It seems to give the option to send DMs, but when I test it, they never arrive.

The Lemmy dev does not want Mastodon to be integrated into Lemmy.

Something tells me this isn't the last word on the issue. If the fediverse concept is to succeed, then its two (current) largest players need to have some cross-functionality.

Perhaps the fediverse will get big enough that third-party developers will step in to fix this. Twitter & Reddit both benefitted hugely from the extra functionality third-party developers enhanced both platforms with.

Its anathema to the whole concept of the fediverse that one person - a lemmy dev - gets to decide something so important.

I wonder why Mastodon.world has done so comparatively poorly. I also wonder if Mastodon could be more integrated with Lemmy would that improve things. As awful as twitter is these days, the way it embeds so easily into other content, which lets you click straight to its comments is invaluable. No doubt its on Elon's list of things to ruin, and he'll get around to it eventually.

I don't know that they've gone anywhere else, although it did prompt some of us to create a fediverse instance for the subreddit.

I help moderate one of the larger subreddits (r/futurology) & its striking how much the recent issues have demoralized people. We track inactive Mods monthly, where there used to be 5 or so a month, for the last two months its 25 or so, which is the majority of the mods on that subreddit.

I'd love to have more Mastodon stuff in my lemmy feed. Shame its virtually impossible as far as I can see. Do you have any idea when lemmy devs might change this?

incoming reddit users could be a huge benefit (familiarity) And maybe add those options (a. & old.) on the side panel with a link for tutorials how to use Lemmy and its apps

Yes, I've been thinking about how to make it as simple as possible to understand for reddit users. Where we explained it here, is an attempt to reduce things to the simplest language - https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15pbknv/do_you_have_some_time_to_take_a_look_at/