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theres no one cause for it, but the long list of stepping stones starts at american culture as a whole

it couldnt be, we just established that "Western “freedom of speech” doesn’t seem to extend to this kind of stuff in practice"

the real villain for global inaction on climate change is not the american republican party

actually no i wanted him in jail too

yes

you just didn’t want to get into sensitive. (?)

im uninterested in getting into your definitions of left and right

your definitions of left and right are not sensitive to me, i just do not care

i am even less interested in being on the receiving end of your tantrums

your tantrums are not sensitive to me, i just do not care

have a good night

Ok but if you want to discuss politics with me in any way, which you seem to want,

you misunderstood the previous comment, it was me clarifying that i am no longer interested in discussing politics with you

Maybe get out of the kitchen?

christ

im not really interested in discussing your definition of a scotsman

condemning backwards policies, beliefs and actions is fine and good

condemning people for comforting themselves with something that harms no one is not, nor is it the first step of progress

its actually just being a zealous asshole

centralisation of power is not an inherently right or left wing ideal, and some of the largest left wing communities on the fediverse are practically or outright authoritarian

the centralising power thats being opposed being a profit oriented organisation does make it more of a leftist thing, though still not exclusively

i missed extremist left in the end of the sentence, you are correct

the most universal and common limits to free speech that people will come across on social media in the west are usually an iteration of 'don't be an asshole'

social media censorship is usually relatively lax on other fronts, and various sites will censor different things, whereas most every site will have basic enforcement of 'don't be an asshole' rules

as a result the most crying about free speech will come from folks who got told off for being an asshole and are entirely incapable of getting over it

i dont see how they implied any if the above to be "extremist left"

it seems like you read "extremist left", assumed it was referring to you and then got upset about it referring to you

have you considered sodding off to an instance where being a lib is a bannable offense

its a bulky box trying to scrape itself through a hole that someone was already stuck in

luckily no one is infringing on anyones right to be r/atheist's bravest little warrior against christmas while complaining about doing something purely to provoke specific groups of people

I am happy to see that you agree that storming an embassy is bad. Seriously because it is NOT obvious by what I replied to.

its not obvious whether they agree that storming an embassy is bad because they didnt say anything about the matter

I think just in general we should NOT act in a manner that would be considered offensive to another group just to be (for lack of a better work) a dick. The sad thing is, we already don’t live in that world and this refugee that burned the Quran might have been burning it as a “dick move” or maybe he was burning it because he has a very real and hurtful story of how he became a refugee from Iraq.

this does not sound like you think we should NOT act in a manner that would be considered offensive to another group just to be a dick

it sounds like making excuses, especially for someone complaining about folks making excuses

I can tell you I am biased toward any religion trying to tell me how to act. If I want to burn every holy book that I buy/own then I should be able to. Pushing your beliefs on others is wrong. Me burning a book doesn’t effect you unless you decide that it does. You forcing your religious laws on me does actually effect me even if I don’t believe in your religion

someone commenting that burning books to provoke violent outrage is vile falls under none of the above

What happens if I’m eating an unclean food infront of some extremist religious person? Do you think I’m trying to be offensive because I’m eating pork in public?

we arent talking about eating unclean food in front of some extremist person, equating the two is disingenuous

I’m not trying to schoolyard argue with you,

uhuh

I think giving up some acts of freedom of speech to religious extremists is a bad path to follow

someone commenting that burning books to provoke violent outrage is vile falls under none of the above

We shouldn’t push people to violent acts, but one could argue that the refugee himself was pushed to this “violent act” by the extremists in his home country

the man in sweden was not pushed to burn a book because of the political climate in another country a continent away

as opposed to saying things like 'religion is cancer', which isnt intended to provoke anyone

death penalties are brutal and archaic, and open the door to innocent people getting executed when combined with any legal systems inherent imperfections, not to mention the outright laziness, incompetence and downright evil thats commonly found within them