Linkerbaan @ Linkerbaan @lemmy.world

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I like how Democrats are recycling the exact same fearmongering of 2016. The world is ending again!1

Deja vu

What discussion I thought we were posting random stuff that came to mind

What figures

Show the evidence then for those tents being Hamas

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976

Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ genocide is being committed in Gaza

Note: This article is written as if Hamas actually wrote documents which exactly match Netanyahu’s desired narrative and the IDF “accidentally published them”.

One could pose questions on whether it was actually Hamas who forged documents published by the IDF.

The crater is insanely deep and wide. Israel using the latest Genocide Joe care package to its fullest potential

NSFL: Video of the crater + aftermath

Go to the safe zone

Bombs the safe zone

Some more context from the article

Israeli forces have killed several US citizens in recent years, but the Biden administration has consistently rejected calls for independent investigations into those incidents as well.

For example, in 2022, Washington resisted demands for a US-led probe into the killing of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh by the Israeli military in the West Bank, urging Israel to conduct its own probe instead.

Israeli authorities eventually dismissed the fatal shooting as an “accident” and refused to pursue criminal charges in the case.

“Israel does not do investigations; they do cover-ups,” Cindy Corrie, Rachel Corrie’s mother, told Democracy Now on Monday. An Israeli soldier crushed Rachel Corrie to death with a bulldozer in Rafah in 2003. Her family spent years lobbying multiple administrations to launch an independent, US-led probe — to no avail.

No, targeting bearded people that espouse violent Muslim interpretations of Islam in order to “correct” their beliefs to non violent interpretation does not constitute cultural genocide

Imagine unironically calling everyone with a beard a knife stabbing terrorist to justify a Genocide. You are no better than the average Zionist.

You haven’t addressed how you can see arabic everywhere, uyghur being an official language, and that there’s a shitton of mosques there and how it constitutes cultural genocide. If you culture is to stab people, then fuck your culture.

I did you even acknowledged the example of banning beards but then pretend like you weren't given evidence.

No because if youd have looked at the “worthless” link you’d know that the primary sources BE provides are contextualized there already.

No there aren't. They are just mentioned and then waived away with some non-sequitur that only people who don't actually read it believe solves the issue.

I can confidently say you did not read or verify the material you linked because instead of denying the Genocide it just does a very poor attempt at justifying it.

You have to prove cultural genocide is happening, not the ban of beards. Put your efford there.

You were the one claiming there was no beard ban because it's a "vague piece of paper on a door",

Another argument debunked another goalpost moved.

There's multiple testimonies in the video you obviously didn't watch. Of course it also includes the visits to the concentration camps which very clearly exist and are very real.

Far too much evidence to deny there's nothing going on so a great point for you to pretend that the person which just spent time reading your worthless links is now 'not serious'.

So now I have had three conversations with people denying the Uyghur Genocide and proceeding to ditch when presented with evidence.

The less radical Imam not falling into the western narrative in the video you linked to says that no religious repression is happening and denies that beards are banned.

everyone just randomly "quit because there's jobs now" that makes total sense. And everyone cut their beards too just for fun. Let's read your link and find out

https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

This is from your link:

I believe this is the full document

Beards:

Your link wants to reference article 14 which focuses on re-education but the preceding one doesn't look great.

So to summarize, according to your link the 'comeback' to Chinese law classifying people with beards as extremists... Is not that it's not happening but that 'they will be taught the correct beliefs'.

where the youtuber “sees 4-5 mosques just walking around the city center” and concludes “you can’t say that there aren’t any mosques here

Yes there are. The heavy military guarding around the area is what's very noteworthy. If there's a lot of dudes with guns arresting people who practice their religion that will intimidate people into not practicing it. Combine this with the knowledge of the "vocational camps" and it's pretty obvious there's something fishy going on.This is what I mean with gradual crackdown on religion.

The excuse that there's still mosques flies about as well as saying Algeria still has mosques so France didn't do cultural Genocide there. The CCP has been pretty open about wanting to crack down on religion as the Xi statement about Maxrism (also 2017 what a coincidence) suggested.

The BadEmpanada analysis video on Xinjiang was the best I have seen so far. Especially this testimony in which the "coerced acting" of China is pretty well highlighted

Of course it's impossible to prosecute the government with the largest military in the world.

That’s not where my interest lays, it lays in practical, and applicable solutions.

I don't think you are arguing with bad intentions. but the premise of playing devils advocate is about the legality of sending weapons to israel, not whether the people doing it can get away with it which is the more practical side.

Practically Biden can (and is required to) enforce Leahy law. Whether he follows the law is a different matter.

Hulk Slam

Note: This article is written as if Hamas actually wrote documents which exactly match Netanyahu's desired narrative and the IDF "accidentally published them". One could pose questions on whether it was actually Hamas who forged documents published by the IDF.

In any case "the leader might lose an election" is not what the "with impunity" clause entails.

Hitler also killed himself at the end of WW2, I doubt that could be used as an excuse to justify giving free weapons to the Nazis.