Lightor @ Lightor @lemmy.world

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I will help people, because there are people dying and suffering from other things. Neither myself or you will be able to stop The US from assisting in genocide. That's a hard fact. But what I can do is help those other people. What real impact are you having? If you vote for 3rd party your vote have 0 impact, you help no one, it literally does nothing.

So your response is to insult me and tell me to fix everything? I can see I'm dealing with a true scholar here.

I'm simply pointing out that you can have an impact on the outcome or not. You don't have to like that reality, I don't, the it doesn't make it anyb less true.

You're ignoring the reality that someone who supports genocide is going to be president. I don't like it either but that's the reality. Now you can look at other issues and try to help other areas, it you can vote for someone who won't get elected and therefore won't be able to help anyone. And voting for someone who won't win, in the end, is the same as not voting, it has no impact on the outcome. Again, I hate our system but right now that's the reality. I would rather help those in can than have my morals be so rigid that I help no one.

Or you acknowledge more than one issue exists and the way issues are handled isn't binary. One can be "better" on some issues or "not as worse" on others that also impact you.

Doesn't make you putting words in their mouth any less dishonest. Or are you of a mind that people can say and do anything if they think the ends justify it?

My home country, assuming the average wouldn't be far off

Ok, my first thought was "no way" but different areas of the country are different, so I was open to digging in. Looks like my gut was right, it's just more "alternative facts."

He never once said that, you people are so dogmatic.

I love how the ml community plays off how big a threat Trump is. History repeating itself.

My best friend best represents my position but voting for him does nothing. Rigid morals that have no impact on improving anything are pointless.

Whenever I'm in an ml community I love seeing what's down voted and why. Always a trip....

Jesus, bucketing everyone together and then throwing out crazy labels. Sounds like you live by the MAGA playbook.

A guy is wildly racist for a few decades and suddenly that's bad? This is 'merica! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

Wait, is that not what relaxing is?

I dunno, you're whole stance is claiming things that run counter to my experience and I don't feel wrong having attacked ML at all. You can say both sides do it, but even in that case it's wrong. I'm not looking to find a place that strictly lines up with my views so I can just live in an air tight echo chamber. I speak my mind in all communities and have only gotten banned in ML because I don't fit the mold. Maybe I've not come at people in world "the right way" like you have to get censored but I'm open to being shown some instances of it.

I'd love to show you examples of my normal comments removed, but they've all been removed lol. What would you like me to show you, I guess I could screen shot it from the mobile app on my side.

If you're Marxist and want to live in that ML bubble that's fine, but I'm not interested in a community that is so strict in what can and can't be said, especially if it's going to host non political communities. It seems like reinforcing group think. If it's all about Marxism then only host those communities, hosting others seeems like a slimy way to inject politics into other things.

Lol there's that hyperbole

Ignoring reality doesn't make it less true. Certain groups of people or environments are worse than others, acting like that isn't reality is pretty naive.

If there was a pro slavery, racist group would you say they deserve to be respected, of course not. There is a line, we just disagree on where it is. And calling that disagreement tribalism is simply trying to hand wave away valid criticism.

I'm talking about normal comments. Remove politics at all. Both communities have what we can call "conversations about benign things." I've seen more censorship in ml than world in that area.

Then if we do go to politics, I can attack both sides on "home turf" and only receive bans from one side. Sure my user is a .world user, no idea if that factors in. I've just seen a difference in how the two approach similar situations and in don't agree with how ml has handled those. That's really all it is for me. I could be wrong and like I said, if I see world censoring in a way I disagree with I'd treat them just the same.

I don't know if I'd consider myself anarchist. My views don't seem to fit into one of the labels going around very well. I find myself agreeing with parts of multiple stances. And disagreeing with parts of multiple stances, which is where my different experiences with censoring come in.

I'm not saying you're wrong or even that ml is a bad place. I'm just sharing my experience and reasoning for avoiding it. Other may agree or disagree, I'm not the source of truth by any means haha. But I'd really love to see the censorship toned down in general, across the board.

Sure, that may be true. But I've been censored on ml around non political issues on ml and have attacked liberals and leftists on world without being censored. I'm one person, so my experience isn't enough to make a broader claim but others have shared similar experiences.

I don't know how you can read the very clear accounts of censorship I showed you that I personally experienced and claim that it doesn't happen on Lemmy.world

I did not say you said it didn't happen on .world. That's not my claim.

I mean, come on.

Edit: this being down voted shows the very problem of group think. I showed facts and quotes to show an obvious contradiction. Gets down voted. They even admitted to misspeaking , yet here we are, it makes me laugh and it's how people are driven away. I see this in ML so much.