Lightor @ Lightor @lemmy.world

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That's not all you claimed. I'm just taken back by the confidence in which people tell US citizens what's happening in their own country and what they should do. Especially when people seem to get upset when Americans do the same thing.

You mean like the assumptions you made about me in your comment above? A bit hypocritical. But I guess you never let that stop you.

I never said either. I called out your contradiction and you got really defensive and made assumptions for some reason...

Looks like they already beat you. They want people to give up. You're willingness to roll over accept defeat doesn't reflect how the rest of us feel.

Is it possible that not being American your not fully aware of all the cultural views, different groups of people and their views, etc to be making these kind of declarations?

I've been in the military where this happens every day. It's not that hard, they're just not held accountable. If you're kid has a cough and we're voting to save democracy then little Timmy can be without one of their parents as they do the thing they were voted into doing and signed up for. There's a level of selflessness that is supposed to come with being a public servant, it's not all insider trading and gifts from lobbiests.

Thank God we avoided that, right? Right?

How do you read "take responsibility for their impact" and then jump to "solely to blame." I swear people just hear what they want so they have a reason to be angry.

The guy brought a gun, but from what I can see he didn't break any laws before being attacked. I'm confused on what the protester was protecting himself from. He too brought a gun there.

I'm not ok with someone being shot for thought crimes, assuming what they might do. That's a very slippery slope.

Also, the person you replied to layed out their opinion in a very respectful way, and you end with fuck you? You sound like a child who can't process their emotions.

The state's attorney can bring charges after an investigation, not some beat cop who stumbled into the situation.

Your hate is blinding you to reality my guy.

Wow, I I've heard of moving the goal posts but that's moving to a whole new field lol.

Let's get a refresher on what you said

Get literally any soldier who was deployed to iraq or afghanistan drunk and they'll tell you about unpunished warcrimes they witnessed or participated in.

Yeah that's not at all the same.

Not every single soldier witnessed or participated in that.

You are desperately reaching instead of just saying you were wrong. Come on man, this is weak.

Making sure I get fed? What exactly has the military done to secure food security? You're complaining about hyperbole and make dumbass claims like that lol

Shoot, my bad. I forgot how easily confused you get. They keep the soldiers fed. I thought that was obvious from context, but I guess back to spoon feeding.

They're not baseless assumptions either. I'm sure your chud friends have seen plenty of horrific shit and they just don't consider it bad, nor war crimes.

They're not baseless? You're assuming you know my friends better than I do. Friends who were in the military with me, a life you clearly don't understand or have ever experienced. But you claim with confidence to know what they consider bad? This is baseless by definition. You're whole stance is based on assumptions.

But prove me wrong, my good friend Sgt Holt, what did he see that was a war crime? I'm curious since you seem to know so well.

I know people that have sniped unarmed civilians in Afghanistan and they considered it a way to alleviate boredom.

Lol first off I call bullshit. A sniper is not setting up a nest then giving away and drawing attention to that nest for no reason. That's how you eat an RPG. Your basic lack of military knowledge is making your lies transparent AF lol.

There's a couple people in my state that even got convicted of war crimes

Oh shit! A couple people got convicted of war crimes so every single soldier ever has committed war crimes. You are delusional and not living in reality guy. Do you apply this logic to every group? Because I'm sure you're part of a group that has had members of that group so horrible things.

What a smart person would do is realize that each person is an individual and not judge an entire, massive group of people based on the actions of some people in that group.

You said literally any soldier, so maybe say what you mean instead of being hyperbolic and then blaming people for thinking you mean what you actually said. You choose those words. You didn't even say, "ask any soldier" you really wanted to classify it with "ask literally any soldier". So if that's not what you meant, why did you make that absurd claim? I don't rely on people making assumptions when I present a point. That is wild...

And even then, I know people do have been in action and not witnessed any war crimes. I've known lots of these people, across a large sample. You're in your room making baseless assumptions.

Yah, every guy making sure you get fed really condones war crimes. You lack any sense of nuance or actual understanding.

You're just throwing out grand, sweeping claims...

So just insults. No counter point, no logic. Just yelling that I'm wrong and you're right? How convincing.

If you had any logic to stand on you'd present it. But you don't. And you'll find every excuse not to provide any. You know you're wrong, you're just too proud to admit it my guy.

You're making a lot of wild leaps from "I don't feel good about being here and being used life this" to "I want to hit people!" even if they did, the people they want to hit are the ones who sent them there. And that's also good.

When one side has a strangle hold on mainstream media they can make you believe something isn't credible just by not covering it.

There's a reason the right focused on owning most all news media.

..... How dishonest.

Learning from history is one thing. Holding people accountable for the actions of others, from before they were even born, is stupid.

But you knew that. You're just trolling or hate the military too much to think clearly.

But let's follow your logic. Let's take actions of people in the past and apply them now. So, given the holocaust I'm assuming you think all present day Germans hate Jews and want them to die? I mean we need to learn from the past right? Just because it's not happening here and now you can't ignore it. Right?

Yes, but no one serving then is serving now. Leadership has cycled many times. I mean, how far do you take this? Can you use events from 200 years ago to claim how a group thinks?

Also culture has changed, the type of people in the service has changed, so much has changed in 50 years. This is ignoring all nuance.

I served in the military. You don't seem to know much about it.

Literally any soldier? Really? The cooks? The guy at the mechanic shop? Literally any soldier?

Not everyone is going out on patrol. Not every soldier is committing a war crime. I've known dozens of people who went over seas and didn't even see a hint of action. WTF is with these wild assumptions being passed as facts.

Does it happen, for fucking sure. But not at the level you seem to be implying. Not at all. People let their emotions rule over reason way too much.

The military has done some horrible stuff but going back 50+ years to prove how they feel today seems a stretch.