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My potentially controversial take is that metagaming is neither good nor bad. A metagaming problem is really just some other problem that rears its head through metagaming.

You can metagame and be a good player. It's like doing improv with dramatic irony. If you're prioritizing the gameplay and everyone's enjoyment, it's a useful tool.

If you're using it for the personal advantage of your character, though... that can also be fine. Some old-school games, especially dungeon crawls, are like strategy games testing the players as well as their characters.

It's when there's a disconnect between how people are playing the game that you get problems. If someone wants to play a strategy game while others want to play improv, and they're not thinking about what kind of approach is appropriate and when, that you get issues.

I don't know, I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that "good" and "profitable" aren't synonyms. It's almost as if there is often a financial incentive to make things worse...

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Most of the criticisms of high-level play come from 5e players, which is fair, since it's pretty much not supported. But I also remember the high-level books from my 3e days!

I haven't had personal experience with it, but I know BECMI D&D supported it. I think the lower tiers (Basic and Expert) are more popular than the latter (Companion, Master, Immortal), but still.

Yeah. I also thought that the tunnels were too small for a subway (because one of The Boring Company's "innovations" is to drive costs down by digging smaller, shittier, and more dangerous tunnels using existing technology). However, there are subways in London that have even slightly smaller tunnels. You could absolutely lay down some tracks in there and have a functional subway. Giving it to Tesla to run a taxi lane for who knows how long was just a choice.

Also, from what I found out, the Loop is going to continue to fuck over the residents, because the expansions are going to have WAY higher fares. I think right now, the Loop is $4.50 for a day pass. As a point of comparison, a New York subway ticket is $2.90, so one round trip would be more expensive than a day pass. That makes the Loop sound great! ...until you realize the prices are kept artificially low to make it seem that way. Future plans for Loop service would cost upwards of $12 a ride outside of the convention center and resorts.

Also, as an aside, something I don't think gets brought up enough is that the Loop proves that Tesla's self-driving cars are a scam. Even on a close course, indoors, built to whatever specs Tesla could possibly want, the cars need human drivers.

Which edition are you playing? From what I can find, the Epic Level Handbook was 3e.

For people playing 5e, yeah, the game just breaks down around level 13-15. One of the funny things is that WotC has clearly recognized this is a problem, because they've implemented a solution... which is to just not publish high-level material. They just gave up on it.

I have to admit I was kind of impressed seeing the way two scams worked together: the Hyperloop, and the Loop. People genuinely thought they were related projects because of the name and, I guess, the tunnels. So the Hyperloop made the Loop sound more exciting than it really was, and the Loop made it seem like there was progress towards the Hyperloop.

Of course, in reality, the Loop is just a shitty cab tunnel designed to financially and physically block local mass transit projects, while the Hyperloop is just bullshit vaporware designed to financially and politically block intercity mass transit projects.

My favorite version of this is when they try to lie about what he "meant," only to then tell on themselves by saying something that's still awful.

Like with the recent "poisoning the blood" quote. I saw several people say he didn't mean ALL immigrants. Okay? That's still some racist shit. It's not even lying about crime anymore, it's straight-up eugenic garbage.

Hold on, a brioche bun can totally work! Toast the bun, put a little mayo on it, put the veggies on the bottom (at least the lettuce), and a regular-sized burger will hold up just fine.

Not saying it can't go wrong, especially in a place that just wants the decor and the food to look good on Instagram even if it's disappointing when you bite into it. But for burgers I've made, a brioche bun can be a nice option. :P

Yeah, it's definitely in the same wheelhouse as modern D&D, so if you like that general experience but want to try something new, it's worth checking out. It's my pick when I want high adventure, superheroic fantasy, with engaging set piece encounters, which is the vibe both games are going for.

@machinaeZERO@lemm.ee is also right on the money. There's going to be a revision coming up, but the old stuff is still compatible and in Humble Bundle right now. (Pathfinder does that periodically, and they're pretty sweet deals!) One more thing is that all the rules are free, legitimately. There's a wiki called The Archives of Nethys, which has ALL the rules content from ALL the books. Paizo allows it, and explicitly gave the site the green light to do that. The books are still nice to have, and you still need them if you want adventures or lore, but you never have to buy a book just to get some rules in it, like a class or feat or whatever.

Ah, the Jack Welch method.

(Seriously, fuck that guy. He was a pioneer among bloodsucking CEOS, and part of it was mass layoffs to boost short-term profits.)

Eh, yes and no.

Pathfinder 1e was pretty much just straight-up continuing D&D 3.5e, but with some tweaks. Pathfinder 2e overhauled a lot of stuff, often simplifying things, but still pretty complex.

Compared to D&D 5e, Pathfinder has more rules, but those rules often make things easier, or (IMO) get you more return for the effort. So, for example: The feat list is bigger and more complicated, but in practice, it means you only need to look at a handful of them when you level up, which is easier (and the rules give you guidelines for swapping things out if you don't like them). The monk has more decisions to make with stances and attack types, but that's... kind of what you want with a monk to make combat interesting. There are rules for boats, and holy shit how does 5e not have rules for boats.

The last example might sound silly, but it's part of what convinced me to switch. It's an annoying omission in and of itself, but also speaks to a broader pattern of 5e just not supporting Dungeon Masters, letting them fix the either broken or incomplete rules, or else take the blame for them. Pathfinder actually supports Dungeon Game Masters, as though their time, effort, and fun were just as valuable as anyone else's. /rant

Pathfinder 2e is what I'd play if I wanted something like 5e, but runs differently. If I wanted something similar, I'd pick something else, but that's a longer, even more off topic discussion to go into unprompted. :P

Also, just to see if they have even the tiniest bit of plausible deniability, I checked out Midgard's shop. There's overtly white supremacist shit ALL OVER the place.

It's not like these people accidentally supported a band with reprehensible beliefs behind the scenes. It's not like a totally normal music shop turned out to be a front for white supremacists. There's note even any serious argument about "separating art from the artist." The leak includes what people bought, and you can tell when someone bought overtly white supremacist music. And even if they didn't, and the band or album name doesn't give anything away, what's it doing at the Nazi store? Why isn't it streaming, or on Bandcamp, or self-distributed? These customers still had to know there's an obscure Nazis music store, what it's called and where to find it, confirm that it's a Nazi store the moment they went there, and still give them money and their address to place a mail order. Oh, some of them aren't native English speakers? Then that just makes it even more damning that they did all this with a language barrier in place!

Plus, just look at the apologists in this thread. They're fucking cowards. They can't just come out with their beliefs, so they're just asking questions, deflecting from the topic. One is concern trolling for the fundamental humanity of literal Nazis, despite the fact that the main fucking problem with Nazis is that they considered marginalized groups subhuman. Where's the concern there? Why the focus on the people who oppose Nazis rather than the Nazis themselves? Another one could barely resist giving the game away by saying they've been called a Nazi before because of their anti-immigrant positions.

The people defending this shop and its customers aren't serious people. They're dishonest, cowardly, and stupid.

That user was cowardly from the jump. It's why they wouldn't outright make their point, but "just ask questions."

Also, can we appreciate how desperate and nonsensical that entire argument was?

Okay, lots of them are Japanese. So... what about the ones that aren't? Why isn't that person concerned about the one who absolutely understand what it means?

And secondly... it's still a huge red flag that Japanese customers were going so far out of their way to buy extremely obscure music from racist bands from an overtly Nazi music seller. If an American specifically imported music from a Japanese shop only racists know or care about, covered in Axis power imagery, that'd still point towards being a huge racist.

That user is seriously turning themselves in knots to defend people who buy Nazi music from the Nazi store.

If they have to work to survive, maybe any time from the 1800s on would work. You imagine a genius from the modern day, with all his knowledge, could blow the competition out of the water, create a one-man technological revolution, and radically change the course of human events!

...until you realize he's not actually a genius. He's a dumbass. He just owned capital that other people used to do things. So if you remove him from his money and even name recognition, he's just some loser who keeps asking if ketamine has been invented yet.

Thanks! I actually took time to make my comment shorter, so I'm glad I successfully got straight to the points. :)

Also, to be blunt... we've seen this before. We know from recent history what happens when the DNC nominates the safe, centrist, establishment candidate, who fails to appeal to voters and loses to a Republican. That was 2016. Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. And who did the DNC rally behind right before Super Tuesday? That's right... Joe Biden.

If you think it would help, sure thing!

Yeah. I'm usually not one to accept "The DM can fix it" as an excuse for bad rules, but it absolutely applies here. It's an extremely specific set of circumstances that can only happen if the players are trying to break the game and the DM lets them. It's not a broken rule in practice so much as it is a fun thought experiment for people to talk about.

I think there are much better examples of broken rules out there.

Hoo boy. Against my better judgment, I'll wade into this pool.

1. If voting for either party gets you the same result, fascists wouldn't be so focused on elections and trying so hard to take the vote away.
2. Withholding your vote doesn't do anything. When has losing an election pushed either party left?
3. Voting doesn't prevent you from engaging in other forms of direct action.

Both parties suck. People will needlessly suffer and die no matter who wins. But there are also people who will suffer and die under one party but not the other, and the same can't be said the other way around. Our democracy is fundamentally flawed, but voting is a tool at our disposal, and we're in no position to turn anything down.