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  • Achieved by the ideology of the very people you're currently suppressing. All you're doing is moving this community hard-right, alienating the left by saying "this is not for you".

    How do you think this discussion is gonna go down every single time this community ever gets linked anywhere now? It's gonna be "the community that banned socialists" and it's gonna attract the neoliberals and the far right as a result while ensuring everyone that leans remotely left says "oh, fuck that then". It's a completely shortsighted move for the future of the instance. It's going to have nazi bar syndrome.

    As soon as we had that PM where you said "survival of the fittest" to me I knew something was up. You literally quoted Thatcherite/Ayn Randian philosophy to justify selectively not intervening in name squatting and community theft, a move that completely fucked over this instance's potential to work with any subreddit modteams in further hastening the reddit migration. Livid that I was led on by this place to begin with.

  • Every single african nation that today is no longer a colony achieved so through either a coup or revolutionary regime. What exactly are you expecting people to do? Vote colonialism out? How childish.

  • Going nowhere fashy fash

  • They're not even federated with lemmyworld lmao.

    And what does this prove? Oh god "make an account on beehaw to post on beehaw" or "make an account on a place that has access to that other place" is truly horrible stuff! Truly monstrous. They might be able to TALK to people and say "socialism is good actually" :O Like holy shit grow up.

    Pointing at one or two fucking people discussing that shit is absurd. You think this community will never discuss making accounts on reddit to do reddit stuff? Or w/e. Trump's next big thing? You think ideologically participating liberals don't discuss going places and spreading liberalism? or idk. Jesus.

  • 100% their “socialist” examples are all democratic capitalist nations.

    What? No they fucking aren't. They are all literally the countries that you would call tankie. You have not read it. Bozo.

    The actual socialist countries included(quoting from the study): China, Cuba, Mongolia, North Korea, Albania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, USSR, Czechoslovakia, East Germany.

    Liberals and literally just telling bare-faced lies. Name a more iconic duo.

  • I know because I personally spoke to him when he came over to the UK to help with some strike action that was happening here, Coventry if I recall correctly? But I guess you want video or some shit? Hasan and Chris Smalls quoting and big-ing up Lenin on stage?

    Your whole premise is that communism is good and capitalism is bad. As if the world is that black and white. You sound like a first year political science student who just got done reading Manifest der Kommunistischen.

    Yes. Communism is good and capitalism is bad. All of human history shows revolutions caused by class struggle drive forward human progress from one stage of society to the next. Communism will win. It is inevitable. No matter how many of us that you kill off.

  • Yeah for the sake of the historical battle I'm including everyone under the banner. Honestly not much infighting at that time other than at the intelligentsia level, which is obviously different to the organising and ground level.

  • These are jokes mate. People are playing around. The site is steeped in layers and layers and layers of irony. Nobody gives a crap what's happening over at Beehaw.

  • and apply idealisms to reality

    Marxism is a materialist philosophy, it is specifically anti-idealism. I suspect this is a case of a person that does not understand what idealism actually means in this context though so I'll help out with a very simplified explanation:

    Idealism = the belief that human beings control their environment through the use of ideas. That humans have ideas, and then use those ideas to impact their environment.

    Materialism = the belief that human beings get their ideas from the material conditions that they find themselves in. That it is actually the environment that human beings exist in that gives them their ideas.

    Marxism is a fundamentally a materialist philosophy. Its key thinkers were viciously anti-idealism and sought to ground marxist analysis in scientific analysis, hence the nickname "the immortal science". Liberalism on the other hand holds idealism as its core tenet and believes that if you just get enough people to change their ideas you can create change. Hence why many liberals think you can just convince the rich to go completely against their material interests with discussion rather than understanding that they hold their ideas because they are the rich, because of the material conditions they have that differ from the working class.

  • None of those unions had liberal or conservative leaders numbnuts. They were built by socialists, just like all the new unions you're seeing pop up today. The Amazon union? Chris Smalls? They read lenin mate.

  • Which union movements led to the implementation of those policies and who were the prominent leaders of the unions in those movements? Maybe look into whose blood was spilled in the streets fighting for it too.

    Linking to a wikipedia page and vaguely gesturing is functionally meaningless.

    Maybe look up the International Workingmen's Association, and the 8 hour day movement, which followed the Nine Hours Movement of 1871–72. Or read a little about where the weekend comes from.

  • You're really gonna believe reddit after the shit they just pulled with mods and third party apps? Over the entire userbase of the subreddit? Go ask any socialist subreddit what happened. They all know and will all say the same thing.

  • Are we a strictly pro-NATO server or something?

    As of this post, yes apparently.

  • That would've given Hexbear the chance to prove itself. This decision eliminates that possibility. It's a consciously-made politically-motivated decision.

  • I moderate 8 subreddits with a combined userbase of 4.2million subscribers. And a bunch of small ones.

    Originally I intended to bring those userbases over here. But the way this instance has been run and the interactions I and other mods have had with the team over PM trying to resolve various issues resulted in each and every one of the modteams I'm in saying "yeah fuck that" over time and getting to know the place. This would have resulted in stickyposts and bringing over thousands, perhaps 10s of thousands, in extremely enthusiastic waves. And this didn't just affect the teams I'm part of, because everyone on those teams also shares links to many many other teams through all the backrooms.

    Communists aren't the problem. This instance's policies - which started out looking incredibly promising and had everyone highly optimistic - has singlehandedly killed the interest of dozens and dozens of modteams and by extension the opportunity to bring across massively more people.

  • Every fucking "social security" that exists in the western world was achieved by those of us that wave the red flag ffs. 5 day week? Socialists. Most of your holidays? Socialists. Worker protections? Socialists. The length of your work day? Socialists. Healthcare? Socialists. Eliminating child labour? Socialists. The list goes on and on and on.

    And inclusiveness? How the fuck do you work out that the only lemmy that has visible pronouns is not inclusive? 20-30% of the userbase is trans ffs. It's MORE inclusive that this instance which has left transphobic and hateful posts up for many hours at a time on occasion. The post that looked like a relic from r/fatpeoplehate was up for 12 hours before it got taken down.