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residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them
I just quoted literally verbatim what the pollers said. You can deep dive looking for cope all you want but the fact remains that people see the change to capitalism as making their countries worse. If you want to get more upset you can read my other longer comment.
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According to the absolute majority of respondents (54%), the majority of Hungarians had a better life under the Kádár regime (pre-1990) than today
The Kádár regime was the communist government.
there were even more respondents (61%) who said that the conditions for individual financial prosperity were more favorable under the Kádár regime.
lol
It is also worth noting that almost two-thirds of Hungarians (63%) said that there was predictable order and social peace under the Kádár regime
lmao
I like this research. Thanks for sharing.
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The older an age group, the higher the proportion was of those who agreed that the majority lived better before the regime change. A significant correlation can be observed when looking at the educational background: citizens with lower education tend to believe that most Hungarians lived better under Kádár. Among the lowest qualified citizens, 62 and 27 percent are the share of the two sides, but even according to the relative majority of graduates (45%), most Hungarians lived better before 1990 than today.
So the older the Hungarian the more likely they are to believe that things were better under communism. So the people that actually lived in communism support it even more. Oh and the more educated people are the more likely they are to support that position too. I think the age thing will explain why the stat is slipping over time, the people that actually lived in communism are the people that support it more, and as they are dying they are being removed from the data.
These polls are really out of date. These numbers have since improved substantially in capitalism’s favour.
Feel free to give citations that are better than 2010-2016 lmao.
I agree. I personally think we need the intervention to look similar to the way we changed smoking habits. There needs to be a multi-pronged approach that includes massive propaganda about the dangers of climate change, made visible in imagery on the meats, alongside massive tax increases on meat products and banning advertising of them. Banning branding and forcing generic branding would be useful too, that worked extremely well across europe for smoking. Spoiler warning for shock imagery:
Meat free products are a big part of it. But growing that industry has to come alongside ending the old one, it won't grow to fill the gap without also making it competitively viable. If governments got behind ending meat in this way you'd see massive investments going into the alternatives as it would be obvious to the financial class that it will be a growth market.
I literally showed you several of the sources for this FIVE HOURS before you made this comment claiming they don't exist and it's bullshit. This is what I mean with you people. You just LIE.
I don't have the sources for that specific graph but I do have this one showing 7 out of 11 former soviet countries saying it: https://news.gallup.com/poll/166538/former-soviet-countries-harm-breakup.aspx
The label changes to socialism on the same day that the old institutions are thrown out and the new institutions are introduced.
Socialism is the transitionary stage of society between capitalism and communism. Its defining feature is that it is a society run by the proletariat as the ruling class instead of the bourgeoisie. Everything else about it can be in some state of flux based on the conditions, because it is transitional. Socialism is a process, not a magic button.
Social democracy is not socialism. You are just a capitalist that likes welfare. Your ideology has absolutely no desire to change the ruling class or overturn the system that is currently burning the world and leading us to destruction.
It's such a difficult topic. As an lgbt person I want the lgbt people in those countries leading the strategy to get change. Not a bunch of people that want to do regime change for the sake of US interests while weaponising marginalised peoples as a tool to create consent for it among the US home population.
All this does is make people in the global south see lgbt issues as a tool of US oppression. It actively harms efforts of local lgbt people in achieving the necessary cultural change in views because people see it as necessary to oppose it in order to protect their economic interests from becoming a US colony or vassal.
Implying capitalism does not regularly do mass killings.
7 out of 11 countries believe the end of the USSR harmed their countries rather than benefited them
Reflecting back on the breakup of the Soviet Union that happened 22 years ago next week, residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them. Only Azerbaijanis, Kazakhstanis, and Turkmens are more likely to see benefit than harm from the breakup. Georgians are divided.
Hungary: 72% of Hungarians say they are worse off today economically than under communism
A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country's economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country's switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary's integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.
Romania: 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism
The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.
Germany: more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR
Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an "illegitimate state." In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.
28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime
Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime, according to a poll conducted by the polling institute SC&C and released Sunday.
81% of Serbians believe they lived best in Yugoslavia
A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -”during the time of socialism”.
The majority of Russians polled in a 2016 study said they would prefer living under the old Soviet Union and would like to see the socialist system and the Soviet state restored.
The above memes are almost always made by Americans, whose brains are riddled with red scare brainworms and are completely devoid of any knowledge or understand of what the left thinks in Europe because Americans do not have a left.
Well the first thing to understand is that they're statists, and all statists are authoritarians by default. Every state seeks to preserve itself and so every state will use authority when it is faced with potential destruction. This is not inherently a bad thing, it obviously depends on the government in question, and who is trying to destroy it, and why. Obviously I as a socialist defend the use of authority to protect the continued existence a socialist state. Liberals tend to always justify the use of authoritarian means used by whoever they support, and then they are intellectually dishonest and pretend that somehow their use of authority isn't "authoritarian".
Additionally, democracy itself is authoritarian. It is the means by which the democratic will of the people express its authority, by means of force. What happens if someone picks up a gun and tries to oppose the democratic consensus? Do you just sit by and let the democracy be destroyed? No, the democratic state uses its own authority to oppress the opposition.
There is no such thing as a distinction between "democracy" and "authoritarian". It's a meaningless buzzword. The opposite of a democracy is an autocracy or an oligarchy, not "authoritarian". The use of this word in modern day political discourse is just something westerners fling at other people's democracies they don't like for daring to vote for something against US interests and want to see them blown up and millions killed and displaced.
I'm not sure if I need to get into the record of liberals on war. Both world wars, and the history of almost every war in the last hundred years not involving a socialist state. There's also the question of the massive ideological mass murders liberals have carried out, but that's a much bigger issue explored in things like The Jakarta Method, which I warn you is really really horrific reading.
How's that boot taste?
Why don't liberals "scan the same" to you? They are far bigger authoritarians than marxist-leninists. Is it just generally because the average liberal is politically checked out and you don't come across the politically active ones because they hide themselves inside the status quo and hegemony better?
I personally don't really vibe with either of the above for the record. My preferred space is Hexbear which is more of a loose left-coalition of MLs demsocs and anarchists than one ideology like the other two, which I'll probably use my other accounts from when it federates. I'm not a fan of the sectarian spaces, sectarianism doesn't help us build power when we're powerless.
No mate because, as I pointed out, they weren't fucking death camps and you're an idiot. You can not cite a single academic source saying that, because none exist.
This has now devolved into you making up genocides that the soviets did not perform in order to justify your support for the nazi genocide of roma performed by finland. Screaming "red fashist" at the end doesn't help.
I'm on the side of objectively good people like Che, Nelson Mandela and Albert Einstein. You're on the side of Hitler and Mengele you absolute tool.
I didn't even make you take the position of defending the nazis, you CHOSE to take this position without prompting.
The average 4chan user is a far right psychopath that hates communists and wants us all executed and it has been that way for over a decade. There is no left on that site. Leftypol is the communist version of an anonymous imageboard. https://leftypol.org/leftypol/
Just updating my previous comment to point out that it was only 57 days on the "significant repairs" one I mentioned. Details here: https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/crimean-bridge-repaired-and-reopened-six-months-ahead-of-schedule-26-01-2023/
Doubt it will be longer for this one, this attack has done less damage.
I don’t fault the Finns for using help from the nazies
Stopped reading. Fuck off nazi. Not only did Finland take part in the holocaust by exterminating the Roma living in Finland (or forcing them to fight in the nazi suicide squads), but Estonia also handed over Jews to the Gestapo.
If anti-communists could stop admitting that they admire the nazis within 2 or 3 comments of starting their anti-communism you might actually be dangerous and effective at spreading your bullshit but you can never fucking help yourselves.
You want the board changed, not spez.
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