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  • Absolutely nothing about directing hate and shame at overweight people helps reduce obesity as an issue. All it does is actively harm the lives of the people who do have health reasons that cause it while driving those in this situation into mental health problems that exacerbate poor eating habits. It is extremely well established that this kind of shaming has the opposite effect, it makes the problem worse. It causes overweight people to eat more and it creates mental health problems for those that can not help it across society.

  • I've always believed it would be useful to have a thing like this but for brand logos.

    But instead of blurring or blocking the brand logo like an adblocker what it does instead is show you the face of the top shareholder in that brand. Remove the brands and show the assholes that own them. Where it's not a single person you replace that brand with the name of the hedgefund or bank that owns the investment.

    It would bring people's attention away from brand consumerism and to a constant consciousness of the ruling class looming over them in everything.

  • A preferable fate

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  • 100% with you, this is /r/fatpeoplehate shit which was banned for absolutely good reasons and it definitely breaks this site's inciting harrassment rules. The fact it's still up after 6 hours is a huge failure to moderate.

    Stop upvoting hateful mean spirited shit losers.

  • So like defending Mao, the USSR and praising and recommending the Black Panthers, who met with government of north korea and defended juche thought then. Like, literally everything I just linked to above?

    Lmao what part of "my job is to overthrow capitalism" do you not understand?

  • Huh I guess you can get kinda close to 40% ? I suppose most of us aren't including the north east withdrawal because it's largely seen as a distraction and not really a "front" that actually happened, and Kyiv feels like it happened 10 years ago now. It makes sense that Blinken would include the stuff most people wouldn't think of as having been Ukraine "taking it back" because the bigger number looks good in media.

  • Alright but like, which states aren't then?

    Like, if none of them aren't which I assume is your take (I was an anarchist myself until the climate crisis started hitting hard so I have some sympathy for anti statism myself) and you can see that socialist states provide a better quality of life than capitalist states when compared at an equal level of development, surely you can admit that one is a lesser evil than the other? But that's not what the people shouting about "authoritarian states" functionally do with their rhetoric, functionally they defend capitalist states and uphold the status quo by forming part of the opposition to the end of capitalist states and the formation of socialist ones.

  • He’s also an antisemite.

    IT'S TWENTY TWENTY THREE AND NEOLIBERALS ARE STILL SAYING THIS RUBBISH

    Embarrassing.

  • Depends on the day of the week to be honest. I'm a socdem some days, I'm a demsoc other days, and I'm a revolutionary on others. Right now I'm mainly calling myself a trade unionist, but I won't tell you which union I organise for 😘😘😘

    Enjoy the strikes though.

  • Give it a rest with the fake news. Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. Opposing Israel is not anti-semitism. And the claims of antisemitism in labour being terrible were always fucking nonsense. The extent of this being nonsense were all unveiled in The Labour Files investigation, I strongly advise you watch it.

    It's fucking absurd that you neoliberals are still pushing this rubbish in 2023 lmao. Embarrassing.

  • They aren't using it as a symbol though, blowing up a religious building is not exactly a move that would be popular among russians. Which is why they're denying that it was Russian munitions and trying to claim that it was Ukrainian anti-air missiles falling back on buildings after trying to shoot down other things. To use it as a symbol you kinda have to say it was you.

    What this will become however is a symbol of reconstruction for Ukraine, which is not at all beneficial to Russia's strategic interests. Hence why I lean to it being a mistake of some sort. Given the accuracy their missiles have though that's hard to justify as well, unless it's not actually the main payload of a missile and is instead one of the earlier stages that gets split, like the fuel tubes sections. This is why actually seeing the missile debris is useful, you can figure out whether it was the target or not based on whether it's the payload section or some other part of the missile.

  • Keep telling yourself that the amazon union just spontaneously appeared out of thin air and wasn't the result of an absolutely massive organised salting effort by socialists then. Just deny reality.

  • Can you define what you mean by "authoritarian" in a way that doesn't include actions the US does ? What is authority in your mind?

  • The compulsion that you feel to distance yourself from past proletarian movements so that your attackers won't associate you with the supposed atrocities of those movements only functions to move you further and further right. It doesn't work because the attackers will do it regardless of how much you moderate yourself. This instinct leads you to not only distance yourself from their own goals, and to condemn your own movement, but to uphold reactionary lies about our movements, sometimes even outdoing those lies by exaggerating them, in order to further emphasize the attempt to distance. It doesn't matter how much we try to twist and turn and distance ourselves from atrocity propaganda, rubbish will be heaped upon the graves of working class leaders.

    Functionally all this compulsion does is move you rightwards. You are attempting to make yourself more appealing to the right because you think that doing so will magically make people on the right suddenly like socialist politics. In the meantime they will attack you with every single piece of propaganda regardless, and you will moderate yourself even more. This deradicalises the movement and blunts the radical edge it requires to get things done.

    It's exactly the same compulsion that liberals have that has caused them to move further and further right over the decades. Every time they get called a communist by the republicans they desperately try to move rightwards in order to get it to stop happening, it will never stop happening though because it is not said in good faith, and the tactic of accusing them of it works well in moving them right.

  • Aight so like 15-20% and he's referring to something that happened ages ago then. I thought it was kinda weird, I guess they're not happy about how the current counteroffensive is going either and this kind of statement helps generate headlines that stop people's support dropping whether it's actually true or not.

    I needed to ask because I wasn't really sure if I'd just missed something incredibly major somehow.

  • I absolutely agree. I also think the irritating environment created by the current digital red scare trend will eventually subside once they move onto some new scare words because the existing ones are losing their edge.

  • This is why I love the internet, for such takes as "Jeremy Corbyn, former leader of the labour party that 40% of people (12.87million) voted for is a tankie".

    There certainly are tankies in the labour party and the british hard left. But all of the people above are the soft left, not remotely tankies. The issue is that american libs are so far right that you can't differentiate between the demsocs and those of us that want and support revolution.

    With that said if you want to see more communist representation in mainstream britain you'll enjoy learning about the Durham Miner's Gala which I made a short post on after attending the 137th year of it just a couple weeks ago.

    You're not getting communists out of mainstream european politics mate, communists built the entire labour movement, trade unionism wouldn't exist without it. Ironically it's also communists building your current american unions such as Amazon's union, you just aren't aware that people like Chris Smalls read Lenin because you're not tuned into the underground american left.

  • Tankies are a tiny subset of extreme far leftists which even far leftists have a right to despise, though.

    Things that are mainstream in British politics would get you called a tankie by american liberals though, because they have no left and have no idea what level of radicalism is required to get welfare and healthcare in europe and then maintain it.

    Jeremy Corbyn defends the USSR.

    Diane Abbot defended Mao on national tv.

    John McDonnell's job is "to overthrow capitalism". Or the time John threw Mao's little red book at Osborne. Etc etc.

    Mainstream elected British MPs in Britain's soft left, saying and doing things that have absolutely zero negative effect on anyone's opinion of them in Britain. But anything they believe or say would get them called a tankie by americans. Corbyn's christmas message a couple years ago extolling the virtues of the Black Panthers (an ML party) would send some people here into a fit, especially if they noticed the CCCP figure in the bottom right of the video at 2:10.

    We have people like Frankie Boyle on national television funded by the taxpayer saying we should kill all the rich. and making pretty clear tweets about his own political position(before he quit managing the account himself). It's just a completely different environment.