People still bring up the ""spy"" balloons despite the fact the US gov has basically pulled back on everything it said about them, it's so fucking weird, they were just boring weather balloons but they were used to cause such a ridiculous amount of drama.
Everyone's standard for evidence is basically crap. No evidence required just need some guys to say "yeaaaah totally, trust me bro" and that's that. This lack of any standards for evidence is leads to people believing made up bullshit like Iraq having WMDs as a justification for war. It allows them to put testimonies of things out there and people will just believe them on testimony with no actual material evidence required.
Mate if these "whistleblowers" were actually doing any whistleblowing they would be getting treated the same way the US always treats whistleblowers, prison, blacksites, mysterious death, or fleeing to a non-extradition country.
This most basic of critical thinking is all you need to do to realise that this shit stinks and that everything occurring is something the US gov and military wants to occur.
Anyone that thinks these "whistleblowers" are real should take a look at the track record of america on its treatment of real whistleblowers.
Real whistleblowers in the US go to prison, mysteriously die or flee the country to non-extradition countries.
This shit doesn't even stand up to the most basic level of critical thinking. If they were actually blowing the lid of some grand conspiracy that the US military doesn't want you to know they would be treated like that's what they're doing.
I think you have to factor in the ideological motivation here. Many have tried to criticise the team for being socialists or weaponise it as a means of trying to get Lemmy not to take off, but I argue that it is because Lemmy is run by ideologically committed people that it exceeded your expectations.
Lemmy's goal is disrupting corporate control of what used to be communal spaces online. This is ideologically motivated by the socialist beliefs held by its development team.
Whether you agree with socialists or not politically, for a platform like Lemmy this motivation is very very powerful and plays a significant part.
The other side of this is that having known and occupied socialist spaces with Dessalines for close to a decade now he is one of the hardest working socialists online.
Yeah no one is trolling. This is what we genuinely and sincerely believe.
The Americans trying to present themselves as the default is a significant problem brought about by their place in global hegemony. They do this and defend it viciously everywhere because they are nationalists, even the democrats are incredibly nationalistic.
Ideally as america declines and recedes from a position given to it by ww2 fucking the rest of the world over its population will slowly accept this and start acting like a normal country that accepts it is not the centre of all things and should not be treated as such. It is one country out of many and there is no reason it should not be treated and present itself just like all the other countries out there.
This will take a long time to happen though. American ego will need to be smashed first. As well as the incredible nationalism at the heart of most of the population, this is the hardest part though because americans see no problem with their nationalism, this despite the fact americans wave more flags everywhere than a nuremburg rally.
I really can’t agree with you though that all those sources are from the Falun Gong
I can connect all of your sources to an obsession with Falun Gong incredibly easily.
First link: Google the author, Ruth Ingram. This is a fake name used to spread literally nothing but organ harvesting content that ALL mentions Falun Gong.
Second link: Wang Guoqi's claim is solely about Falun Gong.
Third link: Is just a wikipedia page so we should be tossing this out anyway. Several citations are Falun Gong though.
Fourth link: Relies mainly on presenting ChinaTribunal as a legitimate court tribunal by real courts when it is in fact a propaganda outlet. This "independent tribunal" gets presented as such and its conclusion is dadadadadadadaaaaa - that Falun Gong members are the primary source of organs that China harvests. It then vaguely connects this to Uighurs later in the article but offers literally zero evidence, only accusations.
You will not find anything on this topic that you can disconnect from Falun Gong. It is impossible because Falun Gong is the source of it. I can stick around and enjoy going down this rabbit hole with you though if you want to try, I am quite happy to be a wall you bounce things off, it's pretty crazy.
You're missing the point. It's made up by Falun Gong. Because a core component of their uhh... Recruitment... Is making up myths like this that make it look like the Chinese government confirms that following Falun Gong makes you healthier because they want to harvest their healthy healthy top grade organs.
When using liberal to refer to liberal parties that believe in liberal democracy then liberal means capital L - Liberalism. I understand that this is the first time you've actually spoken to people to the left of you but this is extremely basic political ideology 101. Socialists hate liberals, they are our political enemy, we use lib as if it is were slur, and we do not call ourselves liberals. Socialists do not support capitalism, liberals do.
If you have other questions I suggest that rather than arguing with me about it you visit basically any socialist community to see that essentially everyone in any of them will agree with what I've just said.
Yes "liberal" can mean "free" and "believes in egalitarianism and a live and let live set of living standards when it comes to peoples personal choices" when applied to cultural beliefs. This is not the political meaning. The two have been intentionally conflated by liberals(political) in order to confuse you politically and ensure that your political education and literacy is absolutely garbage.
Clearly not. Or you wouldn't have this emotional reaction.
You can let go of this, simply recognise that some people are real monsters and that sometimes those monsters do in fact thoroughly deserve it. The emotional reaction you're having is, in fact, latent propaganda still living in your bones, put there by having heard it from liberals postering as the "good people" over and over again by doing this shit.
Nobody has empathy for Mussolini swinging upside down until he died. The institutional propaganda implying you should have empathy for political opponents is just not pushed for him, and so the feeling doesn't exist. That's what this is, a feeling created by institutional propaganda that you absolutely don't need to have for any monsters. You do not need to feel bad.
Yes I'm quite aware that some instances are full of authoritarians that like to restrict the speech of any political opposition to their left. Actually engaging with any arguments we make ends quite badly for you when you cite the CIA and its propaganda while we cite actual primary sources so you simply take the authoritarian position of eliminating left wing speech instead. An action Mccarthy would be proud of.
Paying him empathy is a slap in the face to all of his victims.
You wouldn't do this shit for anyone else that murders children. I 100% guarantee you that this man has killed hundreds of children in his lifetime.
The issue you libs have is that you believe that the institutional murder that these fucks perform is magically different to murder that isn't institutional. It allows you to look the other way when they perform horrors that are unspeakably more evil, and then to performatively pretend you're on some moral high ground for being nice to someone far far far worse than any person that has directly murdered with their hands. You're not on moral high ground for it, all it does is highlight the incredible lack of principles that liberals have, that institutions and performing in the ritual acts of the civic religion are more meaningful to you than the actual pain, suffering and death they've reaped upon people.
It's one of many reasons so many people continue to stop calling themselves liberals and start calling themselves socialists, anarchists, communists, or some other variant of real leftist.
Falun Gong is a cult that believes that following their religion makes your body physically healthier because it aligns the metaphysical energies of your body in a special way. This they say means they have the juciest most bestest organs that the Chinese government wants because they're the BEST GOD DAMN ORGANS around, which is why they actively spread this myth. All of your above sources cite the Falun Gong, or claim that it happened to the Falun Gong such as in your second link:
“Usually these Falun Gong practitioners were injected with a shot to cause heart failure. During the process these people would be pushed into operating rooms to have their organs removed,”
I strongly urge you to watch this video. It is not a pro-china source, it is a liberal source. I think you might come away from it with many questions and when you start realising that literally every single one of these is coming from, or about, or linked to falun gong in some way it becomes impossible to ignore what the source is.
I want to be very clear: I will never support or condone violence. But when this parasite dies (from natural causes), the entire country will be massively better off for it.
Why? Violence inflicted by pen is still violence. He's killed thousands.
The libs bending over backwards to lick his arse in the name of "civility" despite spending every single day of his life working to kill the poor and inflict maximum suffering on the working class in the name of extracting the largest amount of wealth into bougie pockets all deserve the same suffering. The man has killed thousands of people with a pen. Frankly this only happening to him now that he's 81 is far less than he deserves.
Kinda gross how chauvinist americans are in taking the default term "politics" instead of "US politics" while ignoring international affairs. It was gross on reddit and it's gross here.
Of the two of us I am the only one that has done any research at all. As I am the only one who bothered to see what language the US uses for its own media outlet.
Your research consists of looking up propaganda sites that suit you, and parroting whatever they say regardless of any critical thought that might suggest they're not reliable. You don't think for yourself. At all. All you do is defer all of your thinking to these ""sources"" when they're not primary sources and are literally obviously spouting easily falsifiable shit.
People still bring up the ""spy"" balloons despite the fact the US gov has basically pulled back on everything it said about them, it's so fucking weird, they were just boring weather balloons but they were used to cause such a ridiculous amount of drama.
Everyone's standard for evidence is basically crap. No evidence required just need some guys to say "yeaaaah totally, trust me bro" and that's that. This lack of any standards for evidence is leads to people believing made up bullshit like Iraq having WMDs as a justification for war. It allows them to put testimonies of things out there and people will just believe them on testimony with no actual material evidence required.