LemmysMum @ LemmysMum @lemmy.world

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I doubt that, we can't all be rich and pretty like you.

Your incapacity to grasp my understanding is not a lack of understanding on my part.

That sentence you quoted is missing some of it, no wonder you didn't get it's meaning you only read half of one sentence out of a two sentence cohesive statement and a link to reference further learning.

Intrusive thoughts are real, they are also a figment of our imaginations. Both of these things are true and not mutually exclusive.

I think, therefore I am.

If you believe that try not having them.

And my point is that yes, they are real, they are also a figment of our imagination.

How you handle intrusive thoughts is no different to handling any other thought you have, wanted or unwanted, good or bad, if you are going to get it anyway and you can't change the fact they exist how does defining them otherwise in the context of understanding how to not let them affect you provide any benefit?

I would argue that my way of thinking must be correct for this task because I am obviously not afflicted in the same way by my thoughts that I feel I need to define the bad subconscious ones as 'intrusive'. They haven't intruded on my consciousness, my consciousness found them.

It's a perspective that removes a significant amount of emotional power from 'intrusive thoughts'.

We don't always get what we want, that's life. It's how you handle the things you don't control that defines you.

That's called having a normal and functioning think box, comes will all the usual bits of imagination just like every other human.

If intrusive thoughts legitimately affect their capacity to function then yes that would be a disorder, but not due to having them, only due to how they handle them differently from those that don't have their capacity to function affected.

Any relation to OCD is outside of my experience.

I'm going to copy and paste my reply from another comment thread because it better explains my philosophical stance.

I am not emotionally disturbed by my 'intrusive thoughts' because they have as much bearing on reality as whether I like the smell of burnt toast. They are also my thoughts, I take full ownership of them, they aren't something that happens to me they're something I do.

I don't suffer their affliction, I have no personal experience with their incapacities. I don't let my pain define me, I own my thoughts, and even when I don't like the things I think, they are mine alone to think about.

I honestly and genuinely wish anyone who is afflicted by their own thoughts can access the tools and skills they need to improve their mental fortitude and improve their lives by learning to tolerate themselves.

Sure, but handling an 'intrusive thought' is functionally no different to how you handle any other thought.

I say 'pink elephants' you're going to fixate for a bit, how that affects you emotionally won't change that functionally for you.

I wasn't being disingenuous and I'm sorry the way I express myself makes you feel that way.

I don't suffer their affliction, I have no personal experience with their incapacities. I don't let my pain define me, I own my thoughts, and even when I don't like the things I think, they are mine alone to think about.

I honestly and genuinely wish anyone who is afflicted by their own thoughts can access the tools and skills they need to improve their mental fortitude and improve their lives by learning to tolerate themselves.

If you disagree with that then you have bigger issues than intrusive thoughts.

Not all thoughts are consciously summoned, wanted, or pleasant. The term intrusive thoughts is a good way to describe those thoughts we find unpleasant.

I am not emotionally disturbed by my 'intrusive thoughts' because they have as much bearing on reality as whether I like the smell of burnt toast. They are also my thoughts, I take full ownership of them, they aren't something that happens to me they're something I do.

Clarifying such things as intrusive helps destigmatize these thoughts for people who have them and feel the weight of social expectations

I don't see what is particularly objectionable or hard to understand about the term and why being more specific in the description of one thoughts is off-putting to you.

I'm disheartened by the fact that people feel they need to thought police themselves for the benefit of a society that will never engage with those figments of their imaginations.

That is legitimately depressing and I feel sorry for those people. I wish them the best in developing more significant and functional mental fortitude. Sorry if I offended anyone, it wasn't my intention.

Edit: downvotes for caring, love the hypocrisy of this place sometimes.

Right, nuance and context are infinitely important. Now what's the functional difference between the two? Because if none exists that can be implemented by the individual then the nuanced difference between the types of thoughts becomes irrelevant to how one handles them.

I am not emotionally affected by my 'intrusive thoughts' because they have as much bearing on reality as whether I like the smell of burnt toast.

I'm sorry if this sounds callous but I utterly disregard your notion with predjudice.

They aren't intrusive thoughts, they're just your thoughts, stop being afraid of thinking.

Now if you lack impulse control, then we have a problem.

Edit: We need a new term for the phobia of imagination and thought. I suggest Thinkophobia.

Star Wars: Battlefront 2 now with Sailor Moon micro transactions.

It's basic fear response conditioning, I doubt it ever fully goes away because being cautious of the unknown is a very successful survival trait.

Basically every time you open that inbox you'd have to lie to yourself into believing that a negative response is an impossibility. Good luck, if you figure it out let me know.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Oh I doubt it serious, at best it's for the lols, at worst it's a really poorly attempted false flag.