Landmammals @ Landmammals @lemmy.world

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Of course I wouldn't! CO2 suffocation is one of the most painful ways to go out.

As someone who is currently alive and will die someday, I've thought a lot about the end. If my life ends in an intentional manner, nitrogen tank and a face mask is exactly how it's going to go.

Every method of execution requires the person's participation in some way.

Once that mask is on and the nitrogen starts, you have the choice between dying in one of the least painful ways that we know of, or dying in one of the most painful ways.

I don't know if this guy thought that he could find another loophole and delay his execution, but all he accomplished was making his last moments on Earth miserable.

Calling it torture is to say that he has no agency, which is obviously untrue.

Hes getting executed, of course he didn't consent to any of this.

He's getting killed by the state. There was no way around that. He chose to face his death in the way that caused him the most suffering.

In the past, people have done the exact opposite. People being hanged wood have someone pull down on their legs to make the process go faster so they didn't suffer as much. This guy did the exact opposite and inflicted several minutes of agony on himself.

That's an entirely different discussion

It becomes significantly more painful if you hold your breath until you pass out before inhaling the nitrogen.

So probably don't do that part.

Pretty much everyone can.

Most people stop when it starts to hurt, but it takes several minutes of holding your breath before you pass out.

Please do just like, a hair of research before saying random shit like it's true.

Yeah, they need to have the person breathing regular air through the mask for a while and then randomly switch it to pure nitrogen.

There's nothing described here that is inconsistent with "he held his breath as long as possible".

That is the major flaw with this method of execution. The person can choose to hold their breath and be absolutely miserable for several minutes before they involuntarily breathe in the nitrogen.

No, that's just what happens when you hold your breath for as long as possible

He held his breath as long as possible. Read what happens when you do that.

https://www.healthline.com/health/holding-your-breath

There was nothing wrong with the method, this guy chose to suffer. As soon as he started breathing the nitrogen it was done.

Certainly not an unbiased observer.

https://www.treadbylee.com/p/never-alone-the-suffocation-of-kenneth

It sounds like your real issue is with the act of executing criminals rather than the method used.

Which is fine, but it's a different discussion.

The 1% use political theater to distract people from the fact that half of Americans can't afford rent.

This is exactly what they want.

Yes, its a DNS server. You can set up your device to use whatever DNS server you choose, including pihole.

I've got my VPN connected with pihole as the default DNS server so it works on my phone when I'm not at home.

I'm not sure. Maybe there's a law or something that says a person needs to be conscious and aware when they get executed?

That's actually a much more complicated explanation.

I mean, there's nothing humane about killing someone who knows what's happening and doesn't want to die.

If my life were ever going to be ended in an intentional manner, this is the method I would choose.

The simplest explanation for what went wrong here is that Kenny's religious advisor is lying and we need to ask a neutral observer what actually happened.

I think the bigger issue is that he was aware of when the nitrogen started, so tried holding his breath for as long as possible.

If he had the mask on and it was pumping breathable air, and then at some point switched to pure nitrogen without any warning that would be more humane because he wouldn't know what was happening or when.

It's in several child sized coffins.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/15/us/what-we-know-about-the-drownings-of-3-migrants-in-eagle-pass-texas/index.html