Kusimulkku @ Kusimulkku @lemm.ee

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But have socialist countries have such work day shortenings that would be specific to socialist countries?

Well you might have heard of cars, highways and other such human created things that haven't existed during all that time.

Here's one study where they examined the welfare concerns over unrestricted/unsupervised outdoor access (and other concerns). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7070728/#sec5-animals-10-00258

Also how are you mitigating the risk of “such dangers” for pets and children?

I wouldn't allow a cat or a small child to roam around unrestricted. It just seems due to the inherent threats pretty irresponsible.

I pointed you directly to the 8-day workweek, which was the consequence of socialist reforms following the industrial revolution.

And again it's not an achievement of socialist countries specifically. It happened (and originated) in the capitalist countries too.

And they've been dying in some horrific ways during that time. Now there's also a lot of extra, human caused dangers. A responsible pet owner wouldn't subject their pet to such dangers.

Letting it roam freely risks it getting hurt and without you being there to help it. It's not very responsible.

Don’t get get a cat if you live in an area that can’t accommodate them

What is an area that can accommodate pet cats lol

You're not really giving any actual examples of automation shortening the work week in socialist countries here, unless a socialist country for you is the UK in the 70's and unless automation for you is a maoists uprising against landlords.

Industrial Britian had an enormous activist labor movement. A slew of left wing thinkers and agitators emerged from the British academic scene, including Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Ghandi.

Yeah because of how mega capitalist it was

How are you defining "Capitalist Country" if you ignore all the socialist policies a country has implemented?

Worker ownership of means of production, usually. Let's say Eastern Block, China, you get the picture.

That movement is not at all specific to socialist states. If you read a bit further it even says how it originated in industrial revolution Britain and happened all over the world.

I'm not asking about socialist or social democratic or labour movement policies in capitalist countries, I'm asking about automation shortening the work day in socialist countries

Where did that happen, I'm curious about specifics

Did the shorter work weeks and more vacation after automation materialize in socialist states?

I don't get it

You chose this!

Potato salad is fucking great you heathen

Same for Google Photos

I really like to Google Photos memories thing. Good times with my wife. If we broke up I'd probably kill myself thanks to them but so far it's really nice

You wouldn't get it

Unidan, yeah

Nah King Wing sounds badass, thanks

Efficiency and low-cost comes with baggage too, so I guess both in a way. Efficiency and low cost good, but what is required to achieve those often sucks

The second thing is undeniably bad