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If all you people actually cared about Palestinians and didn't turn a blind eye about all the atrocities committed by Israel the past 70+ years, none of this would be happening now.

You're removing the all context because you don't give a fuck about Palestinians and their treatment by Israel. You're trying to pretend this happened in a vacuum.

Can we see some proof of these rape claims? I've been scouring the news and have found nothing.

Kagi sucks for this reason too. I can't believe people recommend that $200/yr paid search engine garbage.

Want to hear some mind-blowing information? Not everyone likes the stuff you like, you're not the barometer on what is good or what is unhealthy.

There’s a clear distinction between the sort of age of crusades and modern post ww2 geopolitics that generated the current conflict

This is like saying the BLM movement in America has nothing to do with slavery.

but to suggest that there’s not been a near continuous level of conflict in the area between Jews, Muslims, and Christians is disingenuous.

It's not disingenuous. Jewish people literally just weren't there until very recently. You're talking like 1000+ years ago.

You're stripping context away. This is all you anti-Palestinians, pro-Zionists do to push your genocidal views.

Here’s the difference. As fucked as Israel treats many in the strip, you don’t see crowds of civilians joining in to rape women or spit on the corpses of Innocents. You see soldiers do fucked things sure but the average person isn’t involved.

The shit that Hamas just did? Streets filled with people joining in and celebrating women being paraded around. You see civilians jumping into the truck with them to rape them. You see celebrations all around the world about this.

There's no proof or evidence of any rape happening. This is just you making the assumption that since women are taken, they must have been raped by these savage Palestinians. This is pure, unadulterated racism. Sure, it could have happened and it could be happening, but there's literally no proof of it anywhere. You're literally just making shit up because you're racist.

You know what you've never talked about or thought of in your life? The decades long documented torture and raping campaign of Palestinians by Israel never mind all the tens of thousands of dead Palestinians. None of this makes you bat an eye.

On top of this, most countries don’t even want Palestinians because of how fucked they are. Look what happened in Egypt when they accepted them. They don’t anymore for a reason.

What you're saying is just a straight up lie backed up with nothing.

I don't know why you think racism against Palestinians is okay. This is literally identical to every other genocidal campaign throughout history. "These other people are savages and 'fucked' and can't be civil, therefore, it's okay to treat them the way they are treated."

They absolutely deserve what is coming to them. Israel is still doing roof knocks to warn Innocents and they absolutely shouldn’t at this point.

There's no difference between you and the people after 9/11 thinking we should nuke the entire Middle East into oblivion. You're the same person. Very stupid, very emotional. We're all glad the only power you have over anyone is yourself. You're an unhinged nutjob.

Need a modern day crusade to clean that country out of these people who believe that it’s acceptable to rape and kill old people.

So everyone in every Western military and government too? Or that doesn't count because it's acceptable when they do it.

I'm not calling you a boomer, unless you're calling the image you posted tankie material and yourself a tankie.

“OK, boomer” attacks a mindset, not a generation

Another example is a pretty big meme from 5 years ago, the 30 year old boomer.

Why do all the 40 year old boomer Lemmy users call anything to the left of the most moderate Democrat "tankie"?

You're trying to make this seem like a black and white issue, when it's not. Comparable logic is like you saying racism against white people is the same exact thing as racism against black people in the US. No, no it's not. You're trying to dumb this down into the most surface level shit imaginable. You're purposely ripping out context to push your anti-Palestinian bias.

You don't understand Palestine at all. It's not a fundamentalist Islamic territory like some of their neighbors. Of course there are some in there, but it's not anything like you see in other Islamic areas. You're just lumping all Arabs and Muslims in together to fit your ignorant ass Western worldview.

Apple isn't okay. Apple is forced onto developers. The general population using Apple products requires developers to use Macs. And, last time I checked, it's a lot easier carrying around one laptop than two. It also doesn't hurt that Apple products aren't exactly the quality of off-brand Chinese laptops.

How many westerners dance in the street when our soldiers kill civilians?

Are you too young to remember 2001-2005? Westerners were all open and talking about how we need to nuke the middle east off the planet and how all Muslims need to be rounded up and slaughtered. This wasn't some small amount of people, this was a huge percentage of the population. Never mind the percentage of Israelis, who before this week and now more than ever probably, thought the same thing regarding Palestinians.

Like what fucking reality are you people living in?

You not holding Westerns, who live in luxury and have all the resources at their disposal, to the same standards of people who often go without water, food, and medical care and feel the need to fight for their freedom from oppressive colonizers is fucked beyond belief. This is you during 1800's America: "these slaves are revolting and are 'evil'!!!"

What these people did was "evil" but it's a fraction of "evil" as to what Israel does to the Palestinian people on the daily and have been doing to them for decades. You refusing to put these actions in context shows you don't truly care about "evil." You only care about "evil" when it's done by someone you don't like, i.e. Palestinians.

The entire area has been in cyclic conflict for hundreds of years

There were essentially no Jews (<2%) living in the areas of Israel and Palestine before the Zionist colonization movement in the late 1800's.

You're trying to make it seem like this modern day thing is even remotely related to the past, which it isn't.

You'd be the guy saying Native Americans are "evil" for fighting against European colonizers.

American military members did this shit in Iraq and Afghanistan like 15 years ago all with the approval and backing of senior military officials, up to the highest levels of government. No one was calling for their heads like they are random Palestinians who have been living in an open air prison their entire lives. Kinda makes you think how misguided Westerns are.

Humans can survive 100 F so it’s not a scale of 0-100, which you would expect for a system based on humans

No one said it's a scale limited from 0 to 100 on the basis of survivability. That's something you just made up on the spot to push some weird narrative.

The person I responded to said it was based off humans, I was arguing that it wasn’t because no patterns exist in relation to humans

I again have no idea what you're saying. The patterns of 0 being low and 100 being high isn't a pattern related to humans? That's obviously not true. We use 0 as the bottom and 100 for the top on a lot of other things.

Well the person claimed it’s based on the temperature of water at sea level with 0 being freezing and 100 being boiling. This would be the 0-100% for water

Why are you limiting 0 and 100 as cut offs?

Can humans survive 100 degree heat? Yes so it doesn’t represent 100%

I have no idea what this means.

150 for 3rd degree burns (almost instant), does Fahrenheit go off base 150? Also no

What about cold? Well -40 requires a lot of layers, so then +40 should be pretty hot for humans right? Nope, because it’s not related to humans at all

Why do these matter? What percentage of humans live where it's regularly -40 degrees? Why does the scale need to be perfect in your opinion? And how is Celsius better?

Why aren't you a communist?

It makes perfect sense. What are you confused about? Are you going to try to "it's just an OK hand symbol" your way out of this? What else would "space lasers" mean in the way you meant it?