Kepabar @ Kepabar @startrek.website

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Which is the core reason why there is no peaceful solution.

Israel was founded as a Jewish ethnostate. Imagine if the same was done but it was a white ethnostate. Who would be the first to move there?

White nationalists who want a pure white ethnostate, that's who. That's what happened in Israel. Those who wanted àto separate themselves from 'the other'. It's why there is such a strong radical ethnic based faction of Jews in Israel whose views aren't reflected in most of the Jewish populations elsewhere.

Conversely, those who haven't found a way to flee Gaza over the decades are more likely to believe that they, as an ethnicity, are the rightful owners of the various holy sites and land in the area and the only solution is the removal or subjegation of the Jewish people from the region.

With both sides having significant and loud sections of their populations calling for the destruction of the other, how can peace ever happen?

Anytime you are doing any kind of military or police action within a civilian area there is always the risk of unintended civilian harm.

If police and military forces took this doctorine that any amount of risk is too much then they simply would be unable to operate.

There has to be a certain amount of acceptable civilian risk and that should be proportional to the threat you are attempting to stop.

Just to clarify, I'm not advocating that Israel is taking acceptable risks. But I am advocating that those risks will always exist with ANY police or military action and the primary debate is over where the red line of acceptable/unacceptable is.

All nations are built and maintained by violence, either directly or by threat of it.

It's a core component of sovereignty. To be able to call your government sovereign you must have the capacity to resist both external and internal actors from being able to overthrow you.

You must also be willing and able to use violence against those under your rule who disobey your laws (i.e, arresting a murderer).

Joke pivots on the interpretation of the word 'address'. In this context it would mean 'how do you handle this problem'.

However, it can also mean 'what is the proper way to refer to something (Ms, Mrs, Your Majesty, etc).

The joke is instead of addressing meaning handle the dangerous situation it means what is the proper way to refer to the elephant.

The vast majority of Israeli's were born there at this point.

It's not a stolen home to them. It's the only home they've ever known.

What question do you want answered? Most of what you stated seemed to be rhetorical.

Why is this "Where do they go? 😞 " question relevant only now and only one way?

Because someone specifically told me that every Israeli should just leave Israel?

Are you not following the converstation here?

That's what makes the whole thing complicated, isn't it?

Israel shouldn't have existed to begin with and when it did, it shouldn't have acted the way it has since its inception.

Yes, Israel is to blame for Hamas having power in Gaza today as well.

I'm not arguing that Israel isn't a bad guy here.

What I'm arguing is I don't see an alternative that doesn't just kick the can down the road.

considering a lot of them have second citizenships elsewhere...how about those places?

That only accounts for maybe 20-30% of the population these days. Most Israelis alive today were born in the country, not immigrants.

So again, where do they go?

And go where?

Yes, they are doing a genocide.

I'm not sure what other options are available at this point though.

Hamas is extremist to the point where they would be doing a genocide as well if they were in the position to do so.

People say separate the Hamas from the people, but that's really hard when the members of Hamas are of the people and have the support of a good percentage of them.

If Israel invades on foot and Hamas is threatened they can simply fade back into the population and wait to try again. And the general population will support them in doing so.

The creation of the state of Israel was a mistake and the rise of Hamas is the direct result of decades of apartheid practiced against the Palestinians by the Israeli state.

... But as the issue stands today, I can't blame Israel in taking extreme action to end the conflict that's dragged on for nearly a century now.

There is no reasonable path to peace. A two state solution would end with the states at war anyway as both states have extreamists who want to genocide the other in government positions.

And there is no where that would accept the Gaza population as refugees even if you could get them to leave.

So what's left?

If she were trying to have children, sure then I can believe medical science could make that happen.

But menopause happens in part because the body runs out of viable eggs. The body doesn't produce more over a life; you are born with your supply.

Why would medical science have given her more eggs at some point?

Good. Embrace me technology.

Hasn't happened to me yet, but I know it will.

Sucks; but to be honest most of the YouTube things I watch have been moving off YouTube for awhile anyway.

First Reddit, now YouTube. This year is a year of change for my Internet habits.

Keep in mind that depending on the type of eye issue they may not need them all the time. In this example the person only needs then to read and it might actually make their vision worse to wear them when not.

Where do they 'pull out' to exactly?

... The very first link you provided shows a chart that has more assistance going to corn than beef, more going to soy than dairy and more going to wheat then pigs.

https://agriculturefairnessalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/2020bdcat-1320x743.png

???

It's not even about that.

Like 99% of women have hit menopause by 55, and the number of births for mothers over 50 with no medical intervention in the conception process is extremely low. So low that Wikipedia has an article detailing specific women it's happened to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

This wouldn't be a huge deal, except a major plot point is that it was an accidental pregnancy neither of them planned for. So it's not like she was getting any kind of fertility treatment.

While not impossible it just makes Jacks conception extremely unlikely

Fuck yeah, go watch Picard S3.

It was a fun ride.

You don't really need to watch the other two seasons first if you don't want to; the only thing you won't have is the backstory on why the hell Picard knows Seven and who Seven's kinda girlfriend is.

Right, Jack is the result of Picard and Beverly finally getting together after the events of Nemesis and Insurrection.

Now, that does make Beverly 55+ when she had him. But future medicine and all that I guess?