Kalcifer @ Kalcifer @sh.itjust.works

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Could you elaborate?

[…] The last few years have been basically “get it written, get it out the door and fact check later if time allows”. […]

[…] Anecdotally, it would explain a great deal.

[…] it […] would [also explain] the almost certain fact that you personally choose not to actually pay for journalism

I'm not sure I follow your logic. Could you clarify what you mean?

[…] the almost certain fact that you personally choose not to actually pay for journalism, despite criticizing it liberally.

Are you saying that one's criticism of journalism is only valid if they pay for it?

[…] the almost certain fact that you personally choose not to actually pay for journalism […]

What makes you so sure that I would be opposed to paying for journalism?

[…] We have specialized professions for a reason.

What exactly are you inferring with this? Do you mean that journalists should be licensed?

The world you are advocating cannot work. […]

Could you outline your rationale for why it cannot work?

In your opinion, what exactly would qualify as abuse of defamation laws? Could you provide an example for clarity?

[…] Do you advocate trusting nobody about anything and somehow doing all the research yourself? […]

It's more that I think reputation increases the probability that a claim is accurate, but it isn't proof of accuracy. That being said, even if an entity is trustworthy, I think they still have a responsibility to maintain that trust by being transparent in the claims that they make — I think they shouldn't ride on the coattails of current public opinion.

[…] Would you dismiss your doctor for their “appeal to authority” when they open a medical textbook? […]

Trusting the doctor's word simply because they are a doctor would be an appeal to authority; whereas, referencing a medical textbook would be citing a source, and therefore not conjecture.

Can you ping the Jellyfish server from the laptop? Can any other device access the Jellyfish server?

Statistics of what?

I'm not sure I follow what you mean. Would you mind stating your point more explicitly?

What do you mean by "crowdsource" in this context?

Personally, I'm asking it because I'm considering running an instance of my own, and I want to know what to expect. This is an issue that concerns me.

I'm not sure I understand your point. Essentially the only point that I was making was that for what's written to not be considered conjecture, any claims that it makes must be cited ^[1].

And yes sources are required but that doesn’t mean that’s ALL that’s required or you wouldn’t have newspapers or organisations, just some people calling themselves journalists that have a bunch of sources.

I agree that the existence of sources aren't themselves examples of journalism.

[…] The idea used to be that you find a news source that is the most reliable. Now half the world just finds the one that confirms their biases the most […]

How are you determining/measuring reliability?

[…] how are you fact checking, are you finding people with expertise and contacting them or googling and using whatever shite websites come up as a source? […]

It depends on the context.

[…] However simply doing a bit of work does not earn you the title, just like replacing a light switch at your house does not make you an electrician […]

Hm, I'm not sure that that's a fair comparison. If it is assumed that an electrician must be licensed in order to practice as one (and assuming that they can only call themself an electrician if they practice as one), do journalists have similar requirements? I may simply be ignorant, but I've not found any examples that a journalist must be licensed in order to practice. Such licensing feels like it would start infringing on fundamental rights.

[…] What source could a reporter sitting on a street in a civil unrest cite? […]

Imo, footage, audio, etc.