There are lots of photos of burnt out armor from the protestors attacks by western journalists.
Their argument is if you see those images of destroyed armor taken by foreign nationals and still think that some how China did it, well fuck you. You're too god damn stupid to talk to.
Where have you been? This is China's stance on literally everything. You don't need evidence because we are not beholden to you. That's what they've said about everything from Tiananmen, to the Uyghur situation, to Jack Ma, to what Xi ate for lunch.
Hey Jack Ma is dead right? He disappeared, and the west was going crazy as shit that they killed him. Oh but now he's in Japan, they were wrong. And China's response on all of that? Fuck you, it's none of your god damn business.
*Edit: Also 911 was an inside job right? Where's the proof it wasn't? And that's why China says fuck you. Because idiots like yourself will spout nonsense no matter what anyway.
No because it's completely incoherent like your argument. But to answer your original point, it was much easier to access weapons in China prior to 1989. You just can't deal with reality.
What? I said back before 1989 the west was even shipping weapons into China, so weapons were pretty available. But they decided to stop because China cracked down and then became opaque. I don't even know what you're trying to say.
What are you talking about? This isn't China today, this is China in 1989 when they weren't able to have the kind of control they do today. In fact, Tiananmen is WHY China puts all the controls they have in place today. And we can feel that's excessive, but at least know some basic history. Jesus, if you don't even know basic history you really are a lost cause.
*Edit: In fact prior to Tiananmen, the west thought China was so open they were happily selling China weapons.
It wasn't until after Tiananmen did they feel China was closed. And China said it had to be because of Tiananmen. So yeah, back then, not too hard to get weapons in.
Nope, they're using that image to say China bad. And yet no one can explain how those armored vehicles got destroyed. They just conveniently leave that information out. Which is my point. I'm sourcing from WESTERN ANTI-CHINA sources. So it'd be really awkward for you to try to deny them. Which was the whole point. I really enjoy reading you jumping all over yourself to try to explain why western media that are anti-china is posting proof of what I'm talking about.
No I showed you an image that a western journalist took. This is not available in China and was taken by a UK journalist. Here's an article using it from the UK.
In HK: the police calmed the protests with no deaths attributed to the police, only the protestors such as the girl's suicide and the man they lit on fire.
What the? So your argument now is that after seeing the military avoid conflict driving around the tank man and seeing destroyed columns of armored vehicle, you think China staged all of that? Even though those images were taken by western journalists who were there at the time? So China got the west to play along with this as well? What are you talking about?
*Edit: You do know that no pictures were taken by China and that everything we have was taken by foreign journalists right? You know at least that much about the history I hope.
Right, I don't trust the government. I do trust images, such as the one of a destroyed armored column. That could not have been done by peaceful protestors. How do you explain the destroyed column otherwise.
*Edit: I do trust that I saw the tank man survive. I also do trust I've seen dozens of images of US police running over BLM protestors. I trust what I see with my eyes, not what the governments say. Why do you trust words over images?
Then why even post? Also, I don't care how people look at me. That said, the comments are all me arguing in one thread. At this point it's over taken my account because of how many people responded.
No you posted proof there's no evidence and then stated that it must be happening anyway because you don't believe the Muslims who said it isn't happening and downvote it. In fact, besides that statement, what is your question? You are not arguing in good faith.
I'm not moving goal posts, you are. I'm saying there's no evidence. You've confirmed there's no evidence. And then attacked the people who are Muslim and literally visited and confirmed there's no evidence. Because you didn't like the way they said it.
I hope you're actually curious about the events that did happen. Because I'd love to tell you about them. And yes, this is the actual position of the Chinese government.
The protestors eventually got violent and started violently attacking the police and military who were sent there to quell the rebellion. For peaceful protestors, explain to me how they destroyed several armed military vehicles in this picture.
BLM protestors couldn't even destroy police cars, let alone a column of armored vehicles.
Now, admittedly the terrified and violent over reaction by the Chinese military and police from this situation was horrible. China continues to refuse to disclose exactly how many people died from this. Which is what all the calls on China's evil censorship is about.
However, as unfortunate as it is, and I do personally believe thousands were killed. The police and military are human. They were terrified of a group of terrorists who were able to destroy and entire column of armored vehicles. Does that excuse their over reaction? No, but could I understand, unfortunately yes.
Violating human rights is something every nation does. Just ask Canada and the indigenous people. That said, I'm absolutely going to judge a country on how bad they violate it.
The fact that USA's propaganda system is really good and made that one tank photo famous, doesn't change the reality that the man actually didn't get ran over.
Ah yes, the Muslims who visited XinJiang and said they are OK with what China is doing. That's why it keeps getting downvoted. But China oppresses Muslims, how confusing. How does the hypocrisy line up in your head with no issues is beyond me.
There are lots of photos of burnt out armor from the protestors attacks by western journalists.
Their argument is if you see those images of destroyed armor taken by foreign nationals and still think that some how China did it, well fuck you. You're too god damn stupid to talk to.