Joncash2 @ Joncash2 @lemmy.ml

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I think your either avoiding what I'm saying or misunderstanding. This whole conversation is based on USA accusing Russia. Just like your axe murderer accusing another murderer. The whole point is when your a psychotic genocider, your opinions and statements should be rightfully ignored.

The problem with your hypothetical is that it doesn't exist. The information is coming from an axe murderer and your just magically asserting the family is real and what he says is real.

The problem is when your an axe murderer, I no longer trust you. Just as we shouldn't trust the USA because they do all the bad things they say others are doing. It's an accountability issue. Which is if you want to say your a good guy, you kind of have to actually be a good guy.

*Edit. This is why I said innocents get caught up in gang wars but the police can't do anything because the source of information is gangsters

When you understand both are whataboutism because it's about the deflection not the action or the accusation, you'll understand whataboutism.

And how do I know he has kids? I'm gonna trust an axe murderer?

It's saying it's deflecting against an accusation. It's clear your not able to understand basic things.

Your idea that someone who disagrees with you is a right winger proves this to me.

Finally you have no idea what the family did. It's why in a court of law we have laws about facilitation or accessory. But I think that will go over your head.

Your article agrees with me. But it's clear I'm not going to be able to explain it to you.

Are all those involved in gang wars guilty? Probably not but it's still wise of the police not to get involved.

And similarly, yes the axe murderer who just murdered the other guys family and is asking for help. I'm probably gonna ignore him.

You clearly do not understand whataboutism. It's when someone uses someone else doing the same thing as an excuse. If Russia does it it's OK for USA to do it. That's whataboutism.

And yes. Let the criminals kill themselves. That's why USA doesn't really do anything about gang wars.

So yeah the head of a crime organization probably shouldn't be pointing their fingers at other crime organizations. Just because crime exists historically doesn't mean you should head a mafia group.

Oh that's some wild whataboutism. It's OK for USA to do it because everyone else does. Man that's some awful way to think.

I'm genuinely confused as to what USA's point is here. I mean they do this constantly. Are they saying it's OK when USA does it but bad when anyone else does it?

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00552r000201100005-4

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/house-passes-16-billion-to-deliver-anti-china-propaganda-overseas/ar-AA1qp59U#:~:text=This%20legislation%20authorizes%20more%20than%20%241.6%20billion%20for,the%20world%20that%20counter%20Chinese%20%E2%80%9Cmalign%20influence%E2%80%9D%20globally.

I mean it sounds to me like they just don't want competitors.

*Edit: I just want to add, I think Russia should get out of Ukraine and what they're doing is awful. But USA complaining about propaganda from other countries is hilariously hypocritical.

It's been like this since the beginning of human societies. And every time the people in charge keep lying and convincing it's citizens it's way more than just a game. Last century it was religion, this century is human rights.

The only consistent mistake is the stupid citizens buy it everytime. You've just woken up. Hate to tell you, it never gets better.

Aaaand... we're upvoting comments of people that obviously have not read the article.

New court documents filed in the US shows that Russian authorities “seized” Google’s money from their bank account in Moscow in 2022 around the time Putin invaded Ukraine.

This happened at the time of the initial invasion and this article is just talking about the lawsuit over it.

So, unless your trying to imply that Google should have been able to see the future, your comment is inappropriate. I only point this out because you're so highly voted up and are clearly spreading misinformation.

I don't understand why people don't understand China's position. Especially since your so correct in your assessment. Xi will absolutely not suggest a god damn thing. China couldn't give less of a shit where the borders are between Russia and Ukraine. It's because of everything you said. They don't want Russia to crumble completely because of BRICS, beyond that if Russia returns all the land to Ukraine, China would be fine with that. Hell, even if Russia takes fairly significant losses and becomes a vassal state to China, that outcome would be fine to. Russia just can't completely crumble. China has been using it's natural resources to buy allies, that's why BRICS has been growing. Not because of anything to do with the war. This is also why all the world calling for China to stop Russia has fallen on deaf ears. China simply does not care. Except of course if it can help their PR, which is all this meeting would be about.

Only in times of war. It's literally one of the checks and balances to specifically prevent a president from stopping an election. Now, if we start a full blown war with Russia...

If that happens good? Why do we think having countries and borders that creates strife a good thing? If we eliminate all borders and are just humanity I see that as an absolute win.

I'm curious. When you read articles about how great the economy in the US is and it's just the voters that don't understand, do you agree? Do you believe the US government no matter how badly they do? If you don't believe the US government on this, why do you believe what their propaganda says about their enemies?

It's because they were never that effective before. But with the advent of drones, they have suddenly become a wildly important protection. This is cause the drones can get stuck in those slat gaps. No other weapon before had this kind of weakness. They were all basically just ballistics before drones.

Oh thank God for a moment there I thought we might actually do the right thing. Thank God for our global leaders assuring the universe will be safe from the disease that is humanity. /s

I don't know why this isn't talked about more, but the reason for the disconnect is that USA has become a petrostate. As a petrostate, the rich get wildly rich and makes the economy look good, while the citizens are fed a bunch of religion to keep them from protesting.

This is true, China doesn't care. I'm actually confused about the narrative around China wanting to take TSMC. Even the most cursory glace at the situation should make it obvious this isn't one of China's goals. This is because these EUV machines don't work on magic. They work on knowledge and spare parts. Even in the unlikely scenario that China somehow invades and these machines aren't destroyed by either China or the retreating Taiwanese, they aren't going to be able to operate them and more importantly get spare parts to keep them running. They'd at best be used to disassemble and review.

All of this ignores the fact that China is already at 5nm using their own equipment anyway. For the extra 2nm of difference between TSMC's 3nm to SMIC's 5nm isn't large enough to rationalize anything close to what they're talking about. It'd be cheaper to just keep subsidizing the Chinese industry rather than invading.

All of this is to say, that China may or may not invade, but TSMC isn't on the list of reasons. If anything, it's on the opposite end. China has a LOT of motivation to bomb TSMC to prevent the west from getting chips as if TSMC is gone, then suddenly Chinese 5nm are pretty much the most advanced chips in the world (besides Samsung). Thus, the real conclusion is we need to invest in Samsung, which surprisingly isn't happening for whatever reason is beyond me.

Uh yea, it's very much the swatstika is my heritage. And it really shows how your just dismissing cultures you don't like.

We both agree Nazi swastikas should be banned, your just trying to argue that it wasn't cultural when it absolutely is. Just as it's literally part of Chinese and Indian culture. But suddenly when it's applied to a group you don't like you just dismiss it? That's hilariously ignorant.

Also, what's happening in China has nothing to do with Uigurs. Famously they did it to Hans Chinese first, which lead famously to Tiananmen. Then they did it to the Tibetans, and we made movies like 9 years in Tibet. Now they're just expanding it. There is no cultural target, it's just whatever group is next.

Edit. BTW that's why it was called the cultural revolution, they were trying to wipe out Hans Chinese culture.