JohnnyEnzyme @ JohnnyEnzyme @lemm.ee

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the art is ignored by a lot of people, people just aren’t as generally sociable. From what I can see, it’s morphed into something that’s less about sharing and showing art, into showing off and partying.

Ugh, yeah, that sounds plenty disappointing. :S

Thanks again for answering so extensively. Maybe one day I'll be able to go (got some health stuff going on).

Btw, I think it might be useful if you were to collect these comments at some point and edit them in to some sort of... guide, or collection of perspectives. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how many people will be able to drill down this deep in to the comments, but hopefully I'm wrong.

Thanks for the extensive writeup, and if I understand you correctly, there's more or less way* too much momentum of various kinds for any group in particular to call the event off even knowing that harsh weather was about to hit.

So if you're a participant you can acknowledge that this year's event kind of sucked, but that it was still worth it on the whole. Do I have that right?

One other thing-- I notice some people calling the event a 'rich person's event,' as if to imply the whole thing is frivolous, and that it's of no consequence that this one was 'rained out.' Thoughts?

Much of what I've read confirms things you're saying, and to be clear, I've never been there myself. I've only read about the event, including first-hand accounts, and seen video footage.

My point about the rain is that in the immediate days preceding the event, surely the organisers had a chance to examine the weather report and realise that at the very least, a strong advisory should have been sent out, or maybe even the festival cancelled. Also, is it possible they didn't know how treacherous the soil there could get with heavy rain?

Yeap, I understand those sentiments, and am fairly picky about language myself.

Still, in cases like these, I have to bow to the fact that language is and always was fluid & ever-changing. That, and the fact that we must pick our battles in life. shrug*

Climate change means the cilmate will not stay the same.

Pard, you sure as shootin' got that part right.

And I've barely been following this year's event at all. If heavy rains were indeed predicted, then it seems to me that at the very least, the organisers have some pretty colossal questions to answer.

I'm not debating that drug use, alcohol and sex don't go on there, but what consenting adults do is their business IMO. For that matter, huge swaths of the rural and semi-rural States seem to be given over to that sort of thing, too, and I think that's of far more concern than a one week festival, brother.

Regardless, I've seen plenty of footage and pics, and there's undeniably loads of creativity, art projects, chance meetings between interesting people, and the tribal-experiential aspect going on at BM. I happen to think all that stuff's pretty damn cool, and I feel no need to dismiss the whole thing just because I'm on some moral high ground from afar.

Okay, what makes it frivolous now?

For who? I understood that when he called it a "tragedy," it was heavily based on his POV and emotions at the time. That's about as innocuous as it gets, and isn't going to change anything across the world IMO.

AFAIK it's a dried-up lake bed that rarely experiences this kind of thing during BM week.

Maybe I'm wrong, tho.

Rain at a festival isn’t.

That's pretty much stripping all relevant context from the situation. The rains are absolutely a big deal for a special campout-celebration that's held in a fairly hostile natural location, with ground that becomes disastrous in terms of movement when there's heavy rain.

It would be one thing if BM was just a frivolous celebration, but it's heavily art-oriented, creative in nature, and meaningful for a whole bunch of folks who are trying to engage in something special once a year. So it's not The Holocaust, no, but more than just the loss of the festival, there's still some real danger going on for hundreds of folks right now.

Well, you made a lot more sense in your previous replies to me, so I think I'm going to refrain from commenting further. Good luck with the project.

They’re probably conservative dickheads.

Hah! It doesn't even take that. All you need is a middle-management who doesn't support the rights of their workforce, is inconvenienced should a customer gin up complaints about OP's hair-color (whatever it is), and is generally just lazy and indifferent, learning from upper mgmt that growth & profits are 99% the things that count, followed by limiting liability situations. The workers themselves are just an inconvenient expense in the equation.

I'd say this is one of the ones where Heathcliff's inclusion definitely helps. @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world

A frog on its own is pretty unlikely to be flying a flag of itself, standing next to it on holidays. Now add the irrepressible Heathcliff, and suddenly it makes sense-- it's another animal-friend he's taken under his wing to perform some kind of gonzo public spectacle.

I think it also helps that in the 'without' version, there's a distinct lack of emotion, but keeping Heathcliff around drives the whole thing forward with a purpose.

I was also going to say that this is the first webcomic on Lemmy I've really liked. I've been here ~two months now. :S

Okay, thanks for the correction! I'll make sure to heed that meaning of "federated" in future.

Still, something obviously happened on the LW-side today with regard to the pics, hence my curiosity. Maybe the news will show up later, over there.

Sure. Here's a couple posted in the community I run here-- [1], [2].

They went offline for about a week I think, sometime after both LW and you shut down image uploads. The images above began re-federating just today.

So, Lemmy.World images seem to be 're-federating' here. I couldn't find any news items over there, but... did the CSAM issue finally get patched at the Lemmy software level?

Lovely. And what might that be?

In short, they can hold a lot more heat than the stones, mimicking the effect of professional pizza ovens.

So the idea is to cook a pizza in the shortest possible time in order to thoroughly cook the dough and outer layers, whilst leaving the ingredients with a delightful freshness. With a conventional oven the process takes much longer, tending to cook everything evenly, producing a drier pizza in which you don't get that 'brick oven effect.'

I've tried the stones myself, heating them on max heat for a whole hour beforehand. They can help a bit, but it's still not the same. All that's my take on the situation, anyway.

I checked the FV just now and I don't see a pizza community here that goes in to this stuff. Unfortunately for now, you'll have to visit the evil empire for more precise info.