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  • Until they realize that empowerment, there will be suffering, and it seems to be accelerationists who want that suffering to drive change. The whole point is that the system is broken in a first-past-the-post democracy.

    I can tell you right now those same vulnerable people are not ready to rise up, though I wish that weren’t the case. There are people who still believe in decorum lmao.

    We can talk all we want about people recognizing empowerment, but you’re also fighting entrenched propaganda campaigns that keep those same people fearful and against solidarity. Talk to any working class Fox News watching disphit.

    Really until I see one of you propose, or enact, ways to counter that propaganda and lead people to understand their empowerment, ima keep doing me and trying to reduce the harm to the vulnerable people as best I can.

  • It’s the compromise for the vulnerable that most often gets brought up in this situation. A protest vote in a broken first-past-the-post election system generally helps the opposition to your vote. Republicans have demonstrated they hate the vulnerable (disabled, poor, debt-ridden) and Democrats are weak in their opposition, but if you want the help those that are vulnerable you would generally not want to subject them to Republicans, whom benefit from your protest vote.

    Another argument is that if you fracture the opposition to bootlickers, the bootlickers will win.

  • I feel like there’s a common ground between schadenfreude and outreach to MAGAts that we should find.

    You’re right in that this would be the moment that people might change their minds because of the consequences they wrought upon themselves…. But if someone voted for others to get hurt, and instead hurt themselves, there’s humor in that irony.

    I agree that we have more in common than not, I point that out to every dipshit I talk to, but the amount of disrespect I’ve personally received when trying to discuss philosophies in good faith is ridiculous, even from family.

    Half the time they start shouting angrily and the other half they start gaslighting. It’s truly hard to not outright say “yes you’re a fucking idiot” when someone gets defensive and says “well I guess you think I’m stupid, huh?”

    There’s some rage we all collectively need to work through lmao.

  • I’m pretty sure they always have been. IIRC you’ll find op-Ed’s praising Hitler and Germany leading up to WW2.

    They also deliberately slandered the guy that broke the (CIA admitting cocaine from Nicaragua into the US to fund right wing militias) story that often gets told as “the CIA introduced crack into black communities”. They effectively discredited the story, which turned out to be true.

    The Behind the Bastards episode on it is p good

  • Yeah, the delusion is only growing. I saw a woman involved in a state Republican Party post that she “saw through Newsmax’s liberal bullshit” and that while her husband still likes them she “knew the truth”.

    We’ve far surpassed dangerous levels of delusion.