InvertedParallax @ InvertedParallax @lemm.ee

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That shit wasn't transient either, in Scandinavia women will still stand and fuck your shit up if you mess with them.

They somehow solved civilization, it's incredible.

So we have to choose between a 100% known bad outcome for poor people and a potential bad effect for young people from a poorly done study. I don’t think it’s too crazy of a decision to go with the option that does a significant amount of known good to the most disenfranchised part of the population, personally.

I disagree with your risk calculus. We are talking about something so 100% fundamental to human life, water. This is something we should consider absolutely sacrosanct, and a human right to all. It should be unthinkable to alter or modify it in any way imho.

I'm not trying to "Precious bodily fluids" here.

You're right it's more expensive and the logistics are worse, but at the same time you could inculcate better habits in your population, and even subsidize proper mouth rinses.

If we begin to assume that the government is going to start manipulating the water supply secretly, you would then have to assume that any water that you didn’t personally purify is suspect, and at that point water fluoridation is the least of your concerns.

I agree, which is why I don't want any tampering or adultering of water to begin with. I trust now that the levels are appropriate, but your whole argument boils down to "we're adding stuff to water because it's convenient", which is true, but a lot of things are convenient.

Let's have people take new referenda on adding them, flouride was added in the early 1900s without any political process.

I say this as someone who grew up in areas with truly horrible water quality from agricultural and industrial runoff, that was still declared "perfectly fine" by a dramatically corrupt local government. I also lived near the town where "A Civil Action" took place, and the water tasted funny there too (not terribly bad, but still weird).

I would suggest instead that advancements in dental technology and science is not pushed harder due to financial interests, as wide adoption would drastically reduce the income of dentists. It’s capitalism, basically.

See, I'm willing to go with you on your other points, but I don't buy this at all.

Dentistry in America is ludicrously broken, but Europe has had its own way for decades, and diverged in many important ways, while having a far smaller economic incentive. My wife insisted on flying back home for all her dentistry after a catastrophic incident in the US (bad infection after unneeded root canal almost lead to sepsis). Personally I have nearly perfect teeth, or I did until recently. After the first examination I mentioned I had changed dental insurance, the dentist stepped out for a moment, came back, and suddenly I had 4 cavities that must be drilled at once. That was an eye-opening experience. My next dentist found nothing of course.

I don't like the theory of adding compounds to water without a very, VERY compelling reason, particularly one with no alternatives. Providing free dental rinses to kids at school seems like it would solve this better, but adding it to water? If the state can add compounds to water, why not other compounds that reduce aggression? That's actually not bad either, but can lead down a slippery slope. It's less a concern for America, but I can imagine a communist country doing that with 0 reflection.

I'll take up closys, I use a hydroxyapetite toothpaste that I find very powerful, alongside listerine.

There are a lot of things we could add to water that would help everyone, magnesium is at the very top of that list (as someone who grew up with rural water, city water is horrifically deficient here), but let's just add that as a secondary supplement, it gets better scrutiny, but mostly, and here's the real kicker:

IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FORMULATION, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE EVERYONE'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE!

I don't know the woman, I'm just against improper use of science.

Most of the Flouride studies are a century old, I consider all medicine of that era to be effectively meaningless.

Let's do some new studies and put this stupid shit to bed.

Id love studies with apatite and fluoride combined, I'd also like to see the efficacy of Flouride mouthwash and toothpaste vs in water, no reason to treat systemically if we can treat topically.

We're practicing voodoo medicine based on tradition, let's see if we can come up with something even better now that we're not illiterate morons.

Hydroxyapatite is basically bone without the last calcium ion, which is calcium apatite

Hydroxyapatite is present in bones and teeth; bone is made primarily of HA crystals interspersed in a collagen matrix—65 to 70% of the mass of bone is HA. Similarly HA is 70 to 80% of the mass of dentin and enamel in teeth.

I think you may want to reconsider, it might not be used for calcium absorbtion (that's via preferential binding and transport pathways in the gut lumen), the apatite is absorbed by the collagen matrix for the outer coating, effectively regenerating the tooth.

Flouride is a stronger, but worse version of this (strengthing apatite without the Ca++ ion), though both together could theoretically be optimal, I don't know of any studies looking into this, and we should be wary of making such claims barring evidence.

Yes, I remember when Oppenheimer got in trouble, which resulted in all the decent doctors in the country being rounded up and executed based on lies.

As US President George Bush was preparing for his recent "We care" trip to Latin America — during which massive demonstrations of Latin Americans responded by saying "No you fucking don't" and "Get the hell out of here" — he was briefed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

She told Bush that the previous day, three Brazilian soldiers had been killed in Iraq. To everyone's amazement, all of the colour ran from Bush's face. Then he collapsed onto his desk, head in hands, visibly shaken, almost whimpering.

Finally, he composed himself and asked Rice, "Just exactly how many is a brazillion?"

No, that was only possible because of the southern strategy of the 60s-90s, which pivoted electoral weight to the section of our country most enamored with fascist racism.

It's a moot point to debate whether Trump is a Russian asset or not. Either way, he's acting as if he was.

Yes, but we do get to abuse brown people right?

Yeah, they had way more horrifying ones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot

America has been destroyed by the politics of the southern strategy.

There's a mass rename button somewhere.

They were slc, so the charge ratio was much higher.

Mlc/tlc/qlc drives have to measure a current very precisely, up to 16 values of discrimination, any charge degredation doesn't change a 1 to a 0, but a 3 to a 2 to a 1 and given enough time, a zero.

Also smaller gate dielectric so more leakage.

The CEO of the fertility clinics, one Melon Rusk, refused to comment.

4 zones.

1. Ukrsine
2. West Russia except Moscow
3. East russia, Siberia, etc.
4. Moscow

Course I doubt that would last long, all of Russia would be impossible to stop charging in for revenge for centuries of cruel brutality and genocide.

Still, problem is solved.

fotgot legal fees, so x10 that.

He spent 250k for banging stormy Daniel's.

Tim apple sms'd him a single picture.

Course, the picture was the back of his neck in a sniper scope.

Sometimes pictures speak louder than words.

And some pictures transcend language and random rants of gibberish.

I miss Nero.