Hypx @ Hypx @kbin.social

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Says the man stuck in 2015, totally abandoned by the entirety of the political left.

You're just a brainwash fool at this point. Still chasing the lies of this one Fascist dude as if the rest of world still believes those lies.

Like on the street or some random parking lot.

Hydrogen allows for converting gasoline stations to hydrogen. That is the simplest and in fact cheapest solution.

Go back to the year 2015 when you actually sound original.

FCEVs are much less flammable than BEVs. They've been on the road of years, even a decade+. None of that has happened. And carbon fiber doesn't really corrode, so it is incredibly safe all around.

Again, FCEVs have massive advantages over batteries. Including all of the same advantages of availability and green energy sources. Remember, FCEVs are literally EVs. They work the same way and have all the same basic advantages.

They just also happen to be able to refuel in minutes and have 400 miles of range. Plus much less raw material challenges. None of the supposed solutions of BEVs can even touch what FCEVs provide from day one.

And of course, BEV fanatics always resort to "magical batteries from the future." Never once allowing for the possibility of superior fuel cells in the future.

You must have a very narrow understanding of what is happening. Germany has dramatically shifted towards pro-hydrogen: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-18/germany-to-fast-track-hydrogen-grid-in-cleaner-energy-transit

That's pretty much made-up. Hydrogen is not a big deal to handle. The "it's a GHG" argument seems to come from some special interest group funded by the fossil fuel industry. It's actually pretty suspect of a claim, and it was never a particularly big effect even if it is real.

You're just like some of the others here: Stuck in 2015 and accusing everyone else of being paid by the oil companies.

Literally no one on the left support these kinds of fanatical anti-hydrogen positions anymore. Just this one Fascist is left. And just a bunch of conspiracy theories as the basis of reasoning. Not even a single coherent counterargument...

You have nothing to say on this subject anymore. You've already revealed yourself and there's nothing left to talk about. You are just a BEV fanatic and you don't care if that ends up sabotaging the fight against climate change.

Basically every left-leaning politician on Earth would have be too, in your mind.

Then explain the vast number of European politicians also supporting expansion of hydrogen? Are they all part of the fossil fuel lobby?

You seem to be stuck in the year 2015, back when these arguments actually sound original. Today, it's just outdated bullshit from a Fascist.

Pretty much everyone on the left have switched to supporting hydrogen. Joe Biden being a recent example. Much of the European political landscape have done this same. Just a handful of seriously out-of-touch social media type are still promoting this BEV monopoly idea.

Once these BEVs get older and more corroded, we will see a lot of issues.

FCEVs have massive advantages over BEVs. They are just some years away from mass production and adoption.

Most arguments against them are years or even decades out of date. There isn't anything holding back green hydrogen anymore. It will be both widespread and cheap pretty soon. It is basically following the same cost curve as wind, solar, even batteries themselves.

About 1-2 kWh worth. So nearly nothing. But of course, you already knew that.

So the question is what is your motivation for saying this?

Ask yourself that. Which echo chamber did you fall into? What Troglodyte hole are you in?

Unless you think I just made up the story about Joe Biden promoting hydrogen, then you're the one that is caught repeating the same story as a Fascist.

Some of you guys are so detached from reality, you can't even realize that you just propping up some outdated Fascist bullshit that almost no one on the left believes in anymore.

In case you weren't aware, even Joe Biden is promoting hydrogen. At some point, you have to make an assessment of whose water you're really carrying.

You probably didn't see a BEV until the last several years. FCEVs will plunge in cost until they are no more expensive than ICE cars. That will be the real revolution.

Joe Biden just announced a huge pro-hydrogen program? Is he paid off or insane?

It's time to ask yourself honestly: Why do you oppose green technology that happens to not be your favored technology? Perhaps you can reach a realization here.

So do FCEVs. There's no reason to oppose them. So don't.

The problem is that it just slung underneath the car, exposed to whatever is beneath the car. You can try making it watertight, but water will eventually get it in wetter climates. That will be the problem of all BEVs with giant batteries.

Not much of an admin are you?