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  • Just petty tit for tat?

    As opposed to a strategy that allows one nation to attack another knowing no effective response is possible you mean.

    You choose to belittle the idea a nation should expect consequences when they try to seize another nation as petty tit for tat. Rather then a fair response.

  • Pretty much.

    Edit. But if we are honest. Its not like western nations are going to stop buying vote to teach them the cost.

    Unfortunately I don't drink their products as I'm cheap. So can't really help myself. But I would be amazed if a boycott of coca cola ever happened effectively.

  • Lets remember the fanta story.

    Coke never left Germany even when the US finally joined the 2nd World War. The traded as fanta to avoid losing sales as an American brand. Once the German people felt they had reason to distrust the US.

    Remember this company has a history of refusing to take sides.

  • They still consider it a key motivation. But have decided not to push for it during this election/parliment.

    Basically choosing the battles they can gain ground on. Leaving the rest for a better oppertunity to convince voters.

  • Out of interest. As I'm not a farmer. Do you know how I would go about buying and filling a muck spreader.

    Plus Rishi Sunaks home address would be a totally unrelated useful fact to share.

  • True.

    At least in poverty stricken nations. Oh and the US. But most of the rest of the world is a little different.

    Sure in the early days of developments wealth helps in all nations. But it just tends to be a matter of time before new medical tech makes it to all the population in most 1st world nations.

    The US is really pretty unique being one of the wealthiest nations but not having universal health care.

  • Again not covered by the EU agreement. Although a few EU members argue strongly for military unification. It was raised by many during brexit as a reason to leave the EU. So again unlikely to find full upport in the near future.

    Currently the supply of arms and weapons is totally uncovered by EU trade agreements. NATO has some agreements. But non that cover this.

    The thing people forget. International law dose not really exist beyond atual agreements nations are willing to commit to. Unfortunately as the world is a bloody long way from a utopia. Most nations are unwilling to agree to things that limit their own military actions. So nothing most other nations can do.

    The closest we ever came is post WW2 where the Geneva convention and ICC was set up.

    But as you can see. No nation is forced to abide by such rules. The US and Russia make i clear. Might makes right until some event leaves oa nation on the losing side of a battle with enough losses of resources to need help from other nations.

    What the rest of the world thinks in wars is still pretty much unimportant to the events.

  • Blasphemy quick stone the unbelievers.

    Kidding of course. Have to admit I agree. I've used Linux since the late 1990s. So long long before it was usable by most folks standards.

    I started because my university had HPUX machines that we needed to submit work on. So wanted a unix like enviroment at home I could work on. This was a tim when linux was basically slackers on 50plus floppy disks. Xwindows needed configuring for every monitor. Honestly by current standards usability was non existant compared to windows.

    But honestly I spent so much time on the system. And watched it improve. To the point I find windows an utter pain in the arse now. And will avoid it under all circumstances.

    But the idea of convincing folks who have no interest. Where the hell do folks find the time.

  • Lol.

    Not part of an EU treaty. As lets face it if the EU had actual laws requiring a member nation to express approved political views. No nation would join.

    As far as I know. That also applies to every other international treaty. They tend to limit actions not political opinions or speech.

  • You know cows kill a fair few folks in the UK right.

    The summery said it was reported running at members of the public.

    While I am sure there are better ways to deal with it. As lets face it the car is only going to scare it more. Scared out of control cow are freaking dangerous.

    There have been a number of news articles talking about killer cows over the last few years. Even though it is rare. Average of a few a year and normally when the cows are stressed for some reason. But let's face. Media is not known for responsible reporting.

    But a cow in the middle of a busy road acting aggressive towards humans. Is a genuine threat. I can def see a cop being to scared to approach it without the car and thinking removing the cow is urgent.

    Of course the action is dumb. Clearing the road and calling a vet would be better. But I can fathom a cop panicking.

  • Honestly what we have now is AI. As in it is not intelligent just trys to mimic it.

    Digital Intelegence if we ever achive it would be a more accurate name.

  • Dammed impressive. How evil AI is managing to post defending itself.

    I for one will be happy to bow to our new AI overlord.

  • I sorta agree.

    Unfortunately modern science is slow to change ideas it has accepted in the past.

    Neil Degrass Tyson did an interesting talk on the % of religion in science. Based in the US. And it basically indicated that the higher you get. The lower the odds you belie in religiose ideals.

    But the levels were pretty high until the top. And still not 0 then.

    I personally think (opinion not fact) this has left us with a community. That hesitates to challenge science on religion alone. IE we don't see ideas thrown out when it is clear religion was involved in forming them. But instead only when clear evidence refutes them.

    In my less the humble opinion. This leaves science with a few old wives nuns tails. That are still followed 400years after the 1689 acceptance of the scientific method.

  • Island has a population of 2k. So if no one else has been reported missing.

  • Honestly Humanity has been pretty arrogant. Took 100s of years before we recognised birds use tools. Mainly because everytime it was seen. Some other excuse was seen for why the bird was sticking a stick into a tree. Science was so sure mankind was unique it was unwilling to see reality.

    But honestly if you think that is bad. Do some research into why European explorers thought Europe represented the most advanced civilisation. African cities raised to the ground rather then face the idea they may have been their before us.

  • Sorry but those are assumtions based on the idea that the earth is unique.

    It is now estimated thatt trillions of plannests wxist in the milky way alone. And abiur 2 million galaxies in the observable universe. We have absolutly no idea how common ir complex the start of life is. Ands assuming we are in anyway unique is not a scientific answer with the knowlesge we have. It is just an assumption.

    If life is common and we habe no way of knowing that is not the case. Then we also have ansolutly no way of knowing how common intelegence is.

    If intelegence is common. It is reasonable to assume with time radio is an easy invention. Cos lets face it. Based on our data the least intelegent civilization we know off. And the most intelegent discovered it withing 5k years of discovering what we call civalusation.

    So again the idea that it is complex for a life to evolve and develop radio is nothing but an assumption. Admitadly a common one. But not one based on any evidence at all. Instead one that is common mainly due to arrogance of mankind assumeing earth must be unique. Just because we lack the tech to see any others.

    As for the odds of us developing in time to hear others. Again. The number of plannets and variaty of distances throw that argumebt in the trash.

    The estimated number is so great. That no matter when i. The last *estimated" 13.7 billion years we look at. Odd ate high that nillions of planetz exist at the correct distance for us to hear them at some point in the last 100 years of radio until we die as a race.

    Again i want to repeat. I am not saying this is such. I have no idea.so to say it is woild be absurdly arragant. And i am far to pessimistic to think such will happen in my lifetime.

    I am only sayiing when you remove the (scientifically unviable based on current knowledge) idea that the earth is unique for some reason. Abd add it to the evidence we have found of how many potential planets are in the universe.

    Occams Razer is in no way valid to assume it cannot or is provably not alians.

  • Hard to be sure without knowing the exact tech developed. How efficient that is on defferent fuels will have an effect on how much effort is placed into gaining those fuels.

    Of course if real options exist the easiest to obtain fuel will be used. Capatalism will ensure that. Though honestly so would most other systems.

    But let's face it. If mankind was able to generate plenty of cheap energy.

    The people profiting of limited resources supply now. Will not go away. And invest what they have in controlling supply. So expect some fairly unpredictable polical moves during the roll out.

  • The simplest explanation is NOT the evolution of an entire other species that survives all the way through to advanced tech to send radio signals.

    That make a huge huge religion level assumption. That creats so much complexity to throw occam out ass a viable answer.

    Is earth unique.

    Without assuming the greatest abundance of evidence we have is unique. Then no occams razer is in no way able to make the existance of other planets having reached a similar status as complex.

    I'll repeat again. I in no way think it is. I just challenge that occam is a viable evidence it is not.

    As assuming earth is more complex then any other phenomenon in space. Requires you to explain why earthonly happened once. In the huge amount of time astrology is able to see. And vast space.

    Any answer that comes is almost paradoxical in its level of complexity. Without more evidence.

  • Hmm not so sure.

    Hear me out. I am not actually saying it is alians. Just questioning that it is not is the logical conclusion of occams razer.

    First remember we have 0 idea atm. So occams assumes the simplist explanation is correct.

    But over the past couple of decades. The number of planets we have identified has grown hugly.

    We only recently gained the ability to detect anything earth sized. But hav already found several.

    Evidence is indication that the number of potential planets that are capable of housing life is far from low. Even if we are taking one in a million planets able. Most scientists interested in the field now agree life existing somewhere is more likely then earth being unique for some reason.

    So complexity wise. Other life having evolved and developed radio. Is no more complex then some unknown answer. In fact the idea that it is impossible to be alian life is more complex then the idea that it is possible.

    Once we have more information. Things will likely change quickly. And I lack the optimism to claim its likely alians.

    But occams razer wise. We have evidence of life creating radio waves and transmitting them into space. As we do it a lot. Where as some totally unknown thing we have never seen up to now is a little more complex as a solution.

  • Only if you are an immigrate. British born citizens he will shit on personally.