HughJanus

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

the entire system is built from the ground up to be a surveillance nightmare

Maybe but many have gone through the trouble of stripping the surveillance processes from it for your convenience.

It is a great OS from a functional standpoint and realistically your only other option is iOS, which comes with a whole load of other baggage.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

Jump

I had a Zenfone 6. It got a whopping 1 software update. It is otherwise a very nice-looking phone but that is unacceptable. And to my knowledge they haven't committed to anything more than that.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

Jump

And why use your phone's onboard DAC at that point if you want quality headphones?

Some phones (LG) did actually come with a HQ DAC.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

Jump

This is fundamentally where we disagree. See my other comment

I replied to "your other comment".

only that it's a valid move to not include them on a device that is primarily used to stream audio and thus doesn't need the extra fidelity.

The fidelity is one of many many pros we have listed

Unless you want to try and tell me that Joe Public should be lugging around gigabytes of flac files?

I don't understand what this has to do with anything.

Do you know what my wireless buds workflow is?

You're missing the point. Pros and cons of each don't matter because you don't have to choose. You can have both. We had both, for decades. You can continue using whatever workflow you want. The existence of a headphone jack does not stop you from continuing to use Bluetooth. I was obviously referring to the cons of having the option of choosing wired.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

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No one doesn't know that you can use an adapter. No one wants to carry that around. They cost money and you have to keep track of them. And you can't charge the phone and listen simultaneously.

They did not do it to improve waterproofing. We have had several phones over the course of decades that were both very water resistant and included headphone jacks, so you can just stop with that capitalist non-sense.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

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But seriously, that highly subjective. I'll take wireless over wired any day thanks.

You're right, it is subjective. The point is, you don't have to choose. You can have both and sacrifice nothing. But what you want is simply for everyone else to have fewer options.

2y ago

The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

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you could have made the same argument for PS/2 mouse and keyboards, or anything using mini, and then later, micro USB.

You could but it would be a shit argument because that was a very logical and objective improvement and this is not.

The 3.5mm jack was first introduced in the 1950s

That is a pro, not a con. Because it means my headphones and other devices, regardless of how old, will still work just fine on brand new devices. Meanwhile your shitpod headphones will have to be thrown away after a year and you have to lick Tim Cook's boots to buy another pair.