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  • Then you belittled anyone using Flatpaks.

    Not a single person including you here was able to show any hint of package maintenance process, QA standard any kind of security awareness.

    All I said was that they are not too different. You are right about some OSโ€™s having paid staff who have setup some great QA to handle it though.

    And I am saying it's an uneducated statement which fails to back itself miserably.

    But, at some point you are "trust me bro"ing someone, paid or not.

    Dude... really? Quite a desperate attempt to make an argument. Yes at some point people are just atoms stuck together ... a human being is not different from rock if you twist the point of view enough. This is just you pushing smoke in the room because you have nothing to back up what you are saying. There is a huge difference in trusting blindly and trusting because you have transparency in processes and standards which are followed.

    So if flatpak and distro repository is not so different... please show me any published standards or processes that are followed to ensure that flatpak is secure, up to date, without obsolete libraries. Would be cool to see there some transparency. Please show me that I am as secure and stable as while running OpenSuse on my machine at home.

  • You were responding to my reply to someone else... but ok I guess. I am not here to convince you about anything. It's not my problem what you install on your thing. I just don't like misinformation spread based on ones believes and feelings, belittling work of whole teams of maintainters and QA staff which is core of why you can trust Linux ecosystem. Them being paid or not is not being relevant.

  • Please stop projecting on others, that would be nice.

    Yes, your home is exposed on both sides. One side tested in proper QA, the other in โ€œtrust me broโ€ env. Lolโ€ฆ. one moment you say that bugs happen and right after that you generalize everything based on one shit that happened on steam package. First you say you are not complaining about anything but then you go to โ€œflatpak better!!!โ€. Fisrt you say flatpak security is good and when you should back your claims you go with โ€œLinux users detect bugs and security holes very good. Of course they doโ€ฆ after the system goes tits up :D

    Soโ€ฆ either please stop talking nonsense or present some facts that try to back that nonsense at least.

  • Major distros are usually backed by a compamny which provides enterprise version. Maintainers are actually employees paid for their work. Even if you pick a derivate distro you will inherit that testing process. So please get your facts straight before talking, you obviously need it. Here how it is done: https://openqa.opensuse.org Each package update, distro install process goes through automated testing. This detects bugs, dependency issues, you name it. If something fails package goes back for human review. And as you can see it is an open process which YOU can review any time.

    Soโ€ฆ how are the flatpaks tested? Please show me some facts. I am interested in this new โ€œtrust me broโ€ QA framework.

  • You can uninstall your package since you are not able to use it anymore. lol

  • Exactly. The QA of flatpaks is done in โ€œtrust me broโ€ framework. You can just go back to windows at this point.

    If I install a package on my distro I know it went through a shitload of testing and I can be sure I am not installing some crap on my system.

  • Please show me the QA process applied to flatpaks, so I know that besides it โ€œworkingโ€ is not full of obsolete vulnerable holes. Or should I just trust the Dev is not a lazy person?

  • Do you realize why is that? That Dev will build the package once lifetime and dont give a shit about proper testing nor updating libraries. And your home dir is probably exposed to this buggy craphole.

    https://openqa.opensuse.org This is what an update goes through when a proper QA process is applied in a standard distro packaging system. This is what flatpak does not ever comes close to. Flatpak is just windows approach ported to linux. Quality and trust comes from package to package and can vary from good to dogwater.

    Btw not sure you realize you are complaining about broken package on bleeding edge distro.

  • I guess the whole world should start using that crap so his dev majesty stops cryingโ€ฆ

  • Why were you so mean to him? Now you made him upset by pointing out how pointless his comment was.

  • Yes. Great for lazy developers who donโ€™t give a crap about quality.

  • Oh.. dudeโ€ฆ Fanboys wonโ€™t like thatโ€ฆ

  • My screen rotated with it

  • Librem phone has physical switches to turn off shit.

  • Custom rom maintained by Pakalu Papito who does not even have original device? World is not that simple.

  • Yes yes you are special and precious.

  • If you root your phone you can go both ways and give your security a good night kiss. It is important what kind of phone it is as well. Android devices are a wild world where you can stop getting any updates last week. Also, being able to unlock bootoader does not mean you will get the ability to install any rom you want. Usually this only counts for more expensive devices. Otherwise you might be lucky to get a rom maintained by one guy from India who is taking care of 5 other roms.

  • Is this supposed to be funny? edit: I mean the post not your comment.

  • That motherfucker is not real