HomerianSymphony @ HomerianSymphony @lemmy.world

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Also explains why North Korea kicked him out.

This is the Democrat's equivalent of Obama is a secret Muslim.

The whole country has been watching too much Manchurian Candidate.

I've yet to see that claim from a reliable source.

Is Rupert Murdoch working for the Russians too?

They also say that about Jill Stein, and Tucker Carlson, and even Trump himself.

Do you honestly think it's possible that Russians could have taken over every aspect of American government, politics, and media except the valiant Democrats (because the Democrats are so noble and pure of heart and unable to be blackmailed).

If the Russians really could infiltrate America that thoroughly, then it would be all over already because they'd have the Democrats too.

But it's just a Democrat scare tactic to get you riled up.

You mean Hinduism?

So you agree that Poroschenko was president at this time.

Because you just claimed it was Yanukovich (and got snotty with me for correcting you).

Try and keep up.

Keep up with what? You're the one who was wrong.

Yes, at which time Russia had been illegally invading the Donbas for about 7 months.

I think you're confusing Crimea with the Donbas. Those are two different things. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. Russia didn't invade Donbas until 2022.

This story is about Donetsk, which is in the Donbas.

This story is from November 2014.

And who was president of Ukraine while that was happening? Viktor Yanukovich, pro-Russian stooge and convicted traitor.

No, it was Petro Poroschenko, the pro-European billionaire installed as president by an American-backed coup.

Ethnic Russians in the Donbas (a region of eastern Ukraine).

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/20/world/europe/ukraine-donetsk-residents-struggle/index.html

Oh look, another Democrat cheering on war crimes.

Ukrainian government forces used cluster munitions in populated areas in Donetsk city in early October 2014, Human Rights Watch said today. The use of cluster munitions in populated areas violates the laws of war due to the indiscriminate nature of the weapon and may amount to war crimes.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

(But not feeling guilty enough to provide reparations or anything.)

when he happily helped Assad bomb his own people

And which side of the Syrian war are you on?

The side that wants to topple Assad and install an intolerant Sunni theocracy?

I'm saying the Russia/Ukraine situation seems very analogous to the Vietnam/Cambodia situation.

reminder that this is complete bullshit

Reminder that you don't know what you're talking about.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

(Reminder that the Donbas is majority ethnic Russian and has been fighting for independence from Ukraine since 2014, which resulted in them being bombed by their own government.)

I’m sure you’ve heard of Pol Pot and the killing fields of Cambodia.

Did you know who stopped Pol Pot? It was Vietnam. Vietnam, already devastated by a series of wars, undertook a invasion of Cambodia and deposed Pol Pot, partly because Pol Pot was killing ethnic Vietnamese people who lived in Cambodia.

And throughout the whole thing, America condemned Vietnam. America accused Vietnam of being expansionist. America was on Cambodia’s side.

Just a thought.

The Russia that is trying to liberate the Donbas from Ukrainian oppression, yes.

Russia has been working to destabilize US politics for decades.

Yeah, probably. Just like the USA tries to influence the population of foreign countries through efforts like Voice of America and Radio Free Asia.

But I think you’re vastly overestimating how much effect Russian propaganda has. If anything is destabilizing democracy, it’s Fox News (which has a reach hundreds of times greater than any Russia bot on Twitter). How can you worry about foreign disinformation when domestic disinformation is right in front of you and radicalizing your parents (and weird cousins).

The only reason we hear so much about Russian disinformation is because the Democrats need a boogeyman to blame their failures on. (Who haven’t the Democrats accused of being Russian agents at this point?)