Haagel @ Haagel @lemmings.world

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I'm not talking about Fascism. There were several European countries that adopted Fascism with mixed results.

Only the Nazi party murdered eleven million Jews and several million other "weaker races". They explicitly referred to Darwinism as their justification.

Perhaps you didn't see my other comment so I'll copy it here. Yes, the Nazis were explicitly motivated by Darwinism.

You appear to be a German (judging by your handle). It should be pretty easy for you to confirm the history.

Not just Hitler, the whole of the Nazi party and their public propaganda was based on extreme Darwinism.

An important official Nazi Party publication, Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte, edited by Alfred Rosenberg, occasionally featured articles promoting evolution. In a 1935 article Heinz Brücher praised German biologist Ernst Haeckel for paving the way for the Nazi regime. In addition to mentioning Haeckel's advocacy of eugenics and euthanasia, Brücher highlighted Haeckel's role in promoting human evolution. Brücher reminded his readers that Haeckel's view of human evolution led him to reject human equality and socialism. In 1941 Brücher published another article in Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte on evolution through natural selection. Several times he stressed that the principles of evolution were just as valid for humans as for other organisms. He closed the essay by explaining the practical application of evolutionary theory:

The hereditary health of the German Volk and of the Nordic-Germanic race that unites it must under all circumstances remain intact. Through an appropriate compliance with the laws of nature, through selection and planned racial care it can even be increased. The racial superiority achieved thereby secures for our Volk in the harsh struggle for existence an advantage, which will make us unconquerable.

In Brücher's view human evolution is an essential ingredient of racial ideology, not a hindrance to it. In 1936 Heberer launched an attack on antievolutionists in Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte. He praised Haeckel and stressed the affinities of Darwinism and human evolution with Nazi ideology.

The history is really quite fascinating and it's rarely taught in your state-mandated evolutionary biology classes!

You said it's the foundation of racism.

foundation noun foun·​da·​tion 1 : the act of founding here since the foundation of the school 2 : a basis (such as a tenet, principle, or axiom) upon which something stands or is supported the foundations of geometry the rumor is without foundation in fact

Technical arguments don't change the fact that Darwinism is inherently racist.

The audacity of claiming that religious adherents are uniquely racist!

Racism is literally the foundation of Darwinism, as explicitly stated by Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the DNA double helix.

It's right there in the title of Darwin's book: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

It's human nature to fight each other, and the tendency towards extremism is universal.

Richard Dawkins has demonstrated that you don't need to know a lick of philosophy to be an atheist. Simply cite anecdote as universal knowledge.

How do you qualify "more harm than good"? You're making a pretty broad claim about 85% of the world's population, according to Pew Research.

I'm not critiquing the theory of evolution. There are plenty of scientists doing that already.

The discussion is about whether extremism is unique to religion. I'm arguing that dangerous extremism can be justified in a variety of ways, even via Darwinism. It's human nature.

I think that this thread highlights our tendency towards selective bias.

The coin is human nature.

The Naxalite-Maoists of India are explicitly atheist and they also firebomb innocent people.

I didn't mention religion at all. I'm supporting OP's statement by demonstrating that all humans and all ideologies are capable of extremism.

The above quote is lifted from Mein Kampf, Hitler's infamous manifesto. The Nazi party referred to Darwin by name. Please read a history book.

Of course, the Americans also indulged in the fucked up practice of eugenics, inspired by Darwinism.

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was the guy who started the scientific discipline of eugenics.

Not just Hitler, the whole of the Nazi party and their public propaganda was based on extreme Darwinism.

An important official Nazi Party publication, Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte, edited by Alfred Rosenberg, occasionally featured articles promoting evolution. In a 1935 article Heinz Brücher praised German biologist Ernst Haeckel for paving the way for the Nazi regime. In addition to mentioning Haeckel's advocacy of eugenics and euthanasia, Brücher highlighted Haeckel's role in promoting human evolution. Brücher reminded his readers that Haeckel's view of human evolution led him to reject human equality and socialism. In 1941 Brücher published another article in Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte on evolution through natural selection. Several times he stressed that the principles of evolution were just as valid for humans as for other orgarisms. He closed the essay by explaining the practical application of evolutionary theory:

The hereditary health of the German Volk and of the Nordic-Germanic race that unites it must under all circumstances remain intact. Through an appropriate complianmce with the laws of nature, through selection and planned racial care it can even be increased. The racial superiority achieved thereby secures for our Volk in the harsh struggle for existence an advantage, which will make us unconquerable.

In Brücher's view human evolution is an essential ingredient of racial ideology, not a hindrance to it. In 1936 Heberer launched an attack on antievolutionists in Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte. He praised Haeckel and stressed the affinities of Darwinism and human evolution with Nazi ideology.

The history is really quite fascinating and it's rarely taught in your state-mandated evolutionary biology classes!

Communists also firebomb workplaces

Guess the name of this Darwinist extremist! (hint: he was fundamental in establishing Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27th)

"In the struggle for daily bread all those who are weak and sickly or less determined succumb, while the struggle of the males for the female grants the right or opportunity to propagate only to the healthiest. And struggle is always a means for improving a species' health and power of resistance and, therefore, a cause of its higher evolution."

I'm sure many of you will find a clever way to justify his murder of eleven million Jews and other "weak" people, and dragging half of the world into the deadliest conflict of all time, all because of his extreme application of Darwinian evolution theory.

Yes. It's Adolf Hitler.

That's really embarrassing, but not surprising that a medical institution would lie and cheat. The profit motive is destroying scientific research.

Oh my God. I actually lol'd.

The first line of the Guardian article says, "Two environmental protesters..."

Granted, I did assume that this was the same group that's been throwing paint onto artwork and corporate headquarters and yachts.

Thank you for citing references.

I'm not usually inclined to conspiracy but I honestly think this group is planted by somebody to make environmental activists look bad.