Guydht @ Guydht @lemmy.world

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If it leads to an actual change - everyone wins.

But I doubt anything will change, with Bibi being the snake he is.

First person I saw on Lemmy who actually has a braincell.

Is it that hard to see that one side's goal is revenge, and the other's goal is security?

Ah yes, because what we need is more hostilities.

Has 7.10 taught you nothing?

It's existence is an abomination

And that, kids, is why we have wars. The moment people with power start saying "yeah Israel should exist but also should a Palestinian state" - that's when we'll have peace.

Dude this is a cat meme

Dude that's like blaming the U.S army for snowden.

The IDF and the Shin Bet are totally different entities

Mainly 2 big ones

Username checks out.

I don't think there's a single person on the planet who doesn't want Netanyahu gone from the Israeli government.

He failed guarding Israeli lives

He failed guarding Palestinian lives (didn't really try tho)

He failed disabling Hamas

He failed bringing the hostages back

He caused Israel to be the most divided it has ever been, hence the most right wing government is right now in office

And all just to not be in jail. Fuck Netanyahu.

I'm guessing they meant "old" as in "no one uses it anymore, it's dead"

A monopoly isn't inherently bad, but a monopoly by a state is pretty bad. It means they can exert political pressure over you using that sector's influence.

Heck, look at Russia and gas. It impacted tons of people all over the world, and if the world hadn't collectively said "fuck you Russia we'll handle ourselves without you" - then countries like Germany wouldn't have a choice but keep buying Russian Gas.

That's a political power you really don't wanna give to anyone, especially not China.

Yes, competition could restart, but that'd take time. And you don't always have that time. Again, see Russia and gas as a nice example for that.

And what'll be after the disbandment? Hamas who train children with guns and parade naked bodies? Or the PLO who fund families of suicide bombers?

The world either needs to treat Israel as Russia (risking them thinking "we've got nothing to lose" and actually genociding Gaza) Or to take the security role off of Israel, and manage Palestinians instead of Israel, who prefer dead Gazans over dead Israelis.

*Bloodthirsty government.

Fuck Netanyahu.

It's a bit more complicated than that. You don't want total reliance from one country (especially one as questionable as China) over a whole big ass sector of your economic. And China being super cheap will cause a monopoly of their EVs. That's bad.

And that's also literally what I wrote. You just repeated my sentence. Nice.

Minimizing ≠ keeping them safe. Read my comment again.

Bad bot. Spoiling lion king is not cool.

Hamas...

Yeah, usually you wanna feed your human bargain, so you know, they'll get better deals out of them.

Don't excuse terrorists for feeding their victims.

As sad as it is, they're not Israel's responsibility. It's Israel's responsibility to minimize their deaths, but not to keep them safe. That's on Hamas/whoever gets control of Gaza after this war.

That's an actually really solid case.

I do think though that the world also needs to help Israel in the fight against Hamas. You can't expect them to both be humane with the same standard as the rest of the west, while they're the only ones being constantly attacked (and very effectively so).

So while you can and should expect change from the situation, you can't expect it to come for free and one sidedly.