Guns0rWeD13 @ Guns0rWeD13 @lemmy.world

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you still don't seem to grasp the point i'm trying to make.

how do you think we defeat the fascists? with hugs?

of course everyone thinks they're the good guys. no one thinks they're the villain, but you and i know who the good guys are, right? no? well, you can end up in a pile with the rest of my enemies.

you don't get it, do you? whoever wins the war we are in gets to decide who the good guys were. there is no compromise. there never could be. it's always been a war. and it will be over when one side capitulates. don't be on the losing team.

you think the other side won't do whatever it takes to win? they're doing it now. do you want them to win? then you need to be prepared to do whatever it takes to stop them. THIS IS HOW WARS WORK. don't think we're in one? you're delusional.

it's okay when the good guys do it. it's not ok when our enemies do it. goose and gander comparisons should never be made if it justifies your opposition. i'm just trying to get people to understand how wars work. "by any means necessary" is what it takes to win. if the victory defeats an existential threat to humanity, then whatever it took to do it was justified.

the point is that it takes messy solutions sometimes. we need to come to peace with that if we want to truly resist the current administration. you can't stay on your high horse forever if you want to survive.

i'm not disagreeing with you. i'm just trying to bring some nuance to some of the statements that have been made.

and you keep saying that is was an authorized assassination, which is not true. it was collateral damage.

do i really need to explain the nuance of this to you?

was it idealistically right? no. was it acceptable collateral damage in war? yes.

we firebombed entire civilian cities in WWII and we were the good guys. perspective is important.

EDIT: i do agree with you about how we have allowed the power of the executive branch to expand to a point that is now a crisis, but i will still defend obama as a president.

your original statement is correct, but i feel the need to speak up on behalf of obama.

the terrorist kill list was a little shady, but it was effective (although messy).

we really need to embrace the power of martial force for good. the good guys can't always take the high road. sometimes there is no better solution than to just apply a hammer.

and if people don't think political dissidents are on the list, they're delusional. we may not be the priority yet, but they're checking off demographics at an alarming rate.

this. the system is broken. the DOJ is owned. trump et al are above the law. they knew going in that the entire charade only operates under the threat of violence and they currently have a monopoly on that. if you don't have stock in violence, you don't have a place at the table. we all need to buy some stock.

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THEY WANT A WAR. LET'S FUCKING GIVE THEM ONE.

good on you. this is what solutions look like.

get their addresses. every fucking one of them. no more talk. nothing but action from here on out.

i'm 51. you lack a spine. STFU if you're not here to win a fucking war.

conservatives get doxxed. do you want to get doxxed?

trying to explain to the painfully naive what we ALL have to do. you should be thanking me and joining the chorus. i'm trying to fucking help you.

we just keep the hits coming until shit makes sense again.

it's that easy. there's plenty of people offing themself all the time. i honestly don't understand what the problem here is. i guess there's not an app for that so the kids don't know how to do it.

you're just as spineless as they are. you could do something too.