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Not all NPC interactions are tiny. I've discovered some absolutely insane shit just from talking to people, or just observing. The haunted Molag Bal house? Didn't discover that until a couple years later. Terrified me. The fetch quests? Yeah I can understand. Don't like those. But if you can provide some variety and rewards for them I can tolerate them, which they did in Skyrim.

But again, don't understand how that makes the game "shallow" lmao. And please don't compare it to Assassins Creed. We don't talk about that fucking franchise. I have such a love hate relationship with it. It's a shadow of its former self.

Yeah, that's me. I don't like being pushed towards a goal. I want to explore and let myself breathe. What I feel Bethesda is good at is the tutorial.

They tell you, "Hey so here's the story. This is the game. Alright now go do what you want, up to you."

I love that. I don't feel pushed to perform a specific task. New Vegas definitely felt that way for a long time during my playthrough.

I was team Ulfric until I found out about the shit he did, and what the Thalmor did to him.

I had an hour long conversation about the civil war with my brother. That is how much of an impact this game had to us. I will never understand how people can sit there and say Skyrim is boring. It's boggling.

Anyway. For the Empire.

Oh my god yes this. I have no doubt the ship building will be fantastic. I personally really enjoyed the base building in Fallout 4. Only issue I had was the power system which felt tedious, but I do think Bethesda will learn from that. If not, no big deal. Wasn't a huge turn off. I think that definitely is subjective.

I'm gonna spend an hour building my ship lmao.

Yeah, I agree. I feel that way about No Mans Sky though, and it creates a scenario where you are entertained for a couple hours and then realize there's nothing to do anymore. It's just a loop. For all that they've added, and as much as I commend them for that, the core mechanics are still flawed.

With Skyrim I don't get that. I'm always finding shit. Something different. Cutting off fast travel was a game changer.

I have not tried those games. I'll look into it.

I don't understand the hate either. I think personally Fallout 76 was what caused the Bethesda hate train. I was there when Skyrim came out and it was universally acclaimed. I mean hell, there are crazy bastards that actually think Oblivion is superior. Which, I'm okay with. We SHOULD argue about that as it shows how good Bethesda is at creating living, breathing worlds. Fallout 4 with all its shitty flaws, does feel alive for the setting.

You will not believe the hype Fallout 4 got too. Even if it was one of the weaker games Bethesda put out.

I don't understand what you mean by "rock solid". Like, in what way? Gameplay? Bugs?

Skyrim was beloved upon launch. It was all anyone would fucking talk about. The only negatives it would get were the horrible bugs. I think in terms of everything else, it IS "rock solid".

Mods DO perfect it IMO, as I don't believe rock solid means flawless. But what do I know. My fucking brother loves vanilla Skyrim and refuses to play mods to this day.

New Vegas was one I desperately wanted to like as from what I've seen, the story looks fantastic. But I've tried to like it for years now and just can't get into it. Everything about it that I've played is great, but the setting itself is just so boring to me. It feels like the majority of the map is just desert. It doesn't feel fun. It feels like a chore. Maybe I'm playing it wrong. I hope I am.

I don't personally get that empty feeling you do. I played Oblivion in 2010 and then Skyrim on release and have fallen in love with those games. So much to do it feels like.

I don't personally understand how you can say Bethesda games are incredibly shallow. I've put HOURS into Skyrim for years now and yet I keep finding new things in vanilla. I haven't even done all the quests, and the list just goes on and on. IMO the world building and attention to detail they do is amazing. Yes I think Obsidian in general does a better job, especially story wise, as I played The Outer Worlds and it was incredible what you could do, especially with the variety of story elements. And I'd be lying if I said there weren't anything that frustrated me that they did in Oblivion or Skyrim story wise or player choice wise. But to say it's shallow? I don't get it.

And personally I feel the only thing TRULY half baked that Bethesda does is the stability and bugginess of their games. Skyrim was a mess on release. Fallout 4 was better but still pretty buggy. They do fix bugs but yeah I get it. They do sort of leave it all up to modders and personally I believe that was a big reason why they tried so hard to get mods on consoles.

Agreed. OP, your wife is a cheating whore. Even though we have no actual significance to her and do not know her, trust us bro.

Ah yes this is why I love the fediverse

Is he on fucking meth?

Imagine if this turned out to legitimately be true, sarcasm aside.

They WANT us to stop fighting and just use social media less lmfao.

IIRC They've found a microbe recently that will eat plastic within a couple years. Could be wrong though.

Either way I agree. Wish we would just go back to glass.

This is basically it, yeah.

Doesn't work on Xbox.

"Well those are official and it's what Bethesda intended".

Even though I tried explaining just how lazy the new fishing mechanics are.