Grail (Capitalised) @ Grail @lemmy.world

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People with NPD should be seen as victims because NPD is a mental disorder and a disability, because it's caused by child abuse, because it increases lifelong vulnerability to intimate abuse, and because you're currently claiming disabled people are bullies.

You also came into this comment section to attack disabled people without reading the article.

Donald Trump does not have an NPD diagnosis. If you're going to name random people to invent an argument, then I may as well do the same thing and claim that Bob Ross, Mr Rogers, and Carl Sagan had NPD.

https://www.narcissisticabuserehab.com/darvo/

Narcissistic Abuse Rehab is a hate website founded on reactionary feelings, not on science. DARVO is a real thing, and I'm sure they have good sources for its existence. But they have no sources connecting DARVO with NPD, because there isn't a connection.

https://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/pathological-lying-narcissistic-personality-disorder-traits

That's an opinion piece that appears to be based on a tweet. It's not scientific evidence.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2017/09/narcissistic-projection#1

That's an opinion piece on a blog which cites other opinion pieces on blogs. It's not scientific evidence.

just the diagnostic criteria from the DSM indicate the dangers:

Only one of them does, and its inclusion in the DSM was controversial. Many experts argued against even including NPD as a diagnosis.

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/new-insights-narcissistic-personality-disorder

Conceptualizations and diagnostic definitions of narcissistic personality disorder have primarily focused on the more strikingly provocative, self-enhancing, entitled interpersonal behaviors and attitudes that tend to capture the attention of clinicians rather than on the patient’s underlying, internal struggles. This has contributed to making the diagnosis more judgmental rather than informative.

Here's another source:

https://www.thehotline.org/resources/abuse-and-mental-illness-is-there-a-connection/

A common assumption we hear at The Hotline is that abuse is caused by a partner’s mental health condition, for example: bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), narcissistic personality, borderline personality or antisocial personality. While these are serious mental health conditions, they do not cause abuse. Nothing in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition (DSM 5) states that a mental illness solely causes a partner to be abusive in a relationship; however, there are a select few diagnoses that can increase the risk of abusive patterns to show up in a relationship and in other areas of life.

There's no scientific evidence that people with NPD are dangerous. You're just spreading unfounded rumours that you haven't bothered to verify, about how mental disorders make people dangerous.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't say such mean things about my mental disorder. At the very least, maybe you could swap the word "narcissist" for person-first language into "person living with NPD".

I wrote an article about exactly this: https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/tautological-denial-of-magic-0e311ca94c2a