GlitterInfection @ GlitterInfection @lemmy.world

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The iPhone launched without an App store. It later went on to define the concept of having a "killer app."

It is clear from the article I linked that there were tons of people who didn't know how the iPhone fit into their lives. That's hugely revisionist history. All of the complaints about the VisionPro were made about the original iPhone. For instance:

“There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It’s a $500 subsidized item,” said then-Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer

People said it was too expensive! Here's some more:

To summarize: the iPhone is expensive and fails miserably at its primary function of making telephone calls, but other than that it's really great.

I still wouldn't buy one for everyday use.

We like our strategy. We're selling millions and million and millions of phones a year. Apple is selling zero phones. In six months they'll have the most expensive phone by far ever in the marketplace

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/65619/13-early-criticisms-doubts-and-disses-about-iphone

I, personally, was a very late adopter to smart phones, joining when my motorola flip phone was stolen out of my hand during the iPhone 3g era. I later jumped to Android for the One Plus One, and stuck with that until jumping back to Apple devices years later.

But you could point to the Apple Watch, or the iPod, or any number of successful products that Apple has brought out and find the exact same things being said.

For example, Apple Watch will fail because:

It doesn't have a defining feature.

https://medium.com/adventures-in-consumer-technology/10-reasons-the-apple-watch-will-fail-ecfe7fdffebd

As for the VisionPro, all of the reviews I've seen for the device have been universally mixed-to-positive. They generally share your sentiment that it isn't clear yet where it fits in, but that it is an incredible, magical, device.

The most negative review I've seen has said that it's great but not worth messing up your hair to use.

But to claim it's universally panned is absolutely not true.

It's a great device that lots of people who can't afford one are complaining about. That's it so far.

Yes, I understood it was a quote from the investigation and was pointing out that it is phrased in a way to make it sound like the investigation was saying "guilty even though you don't meet the criteria."

And, like all EU regulations, I am happy they think they're helping but angry at the fallout of all of their actions.

My boyfriend has a different phone model than I do, and we now have to carry multiple cables to do anything. My car has carplay over usb, so we have two cables in there, etc.

And when I update his phone we will be producing a ton of e-waste.

No I don't want you to track me with cookies, but I also don't want to go through three layers of pop ups to tell you that. Everything is shittier that the EU touches-tech-wise, and they're fisting everything hard lately.

Not at all...

But why bother bringing up a way in which Apple DOES NOT meet requirements in your PR?

That's what I was pointing out, ffs. Not some grand argument you are putting on me.

For the record, unlike almost all the android folks who post constant hate and negativity on the apple enthusiast community, I like my Apple products and am annoyed that the EU is working to make them shittier for me so that they can applaud.

There's like 4 or 5 versions of this article posted to this community at once. People couldn't wait to rub it in the faces of the few of us who are here to be enthusiastic about Apple products.

It would be nice to have one community where I could enjoy the things I like without a flood of nonsense.

"These comments remind me of the folks who thought the original iPod didn't stand a chance..."

Just going to leave this here:

https://bgr.com/general/original-iphone-reaction-comments/

https://support.apple.com/en-afri/118498

Just FYI, there's an app called Moon Player (and possibly others) which let you play stereo video.

It has Youtube integration in the app, but if you download any mp4 it can play them just fine (albeit in a clunky-UX which requires you to tell it what the video's layout is).

So all those "it doesn't support porn" people can now fall back to their other main complaint of "I can't afford it."

while its end user numbers were close to the threshold

Why have a threshold if you literally ignore it?

its importance for certain use cases, such as gaming apps.

Sure, Jan. The iPad definitely has that gaming apps market gatekept!

At this point it's obvious these aren't consumer protection mechanisms as much as they're anti-tech measures meant to try to put the breaks on a highly competitive market that the EU is not a part of in hopes that home-grown alternatives can catch up.

But since the EU is so tech-hostile, why would anyone want to startup tech there?

Those well-meaning-but-terrible-in-practice consumer protection laws are probably a good indicator of why the EU isn't a hub of technological innovation.

They're at least a symptom of the same underlying outlook on the industry.

Very true. Though I would click that bait so hard!

I still prefer this type of article to lots of others in the bait family. Obviously they want people sharing this article and saying "See! That thing I believe is proven!"

It's a nicer engagement-driving piece of content.

While Helldivers 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 might look like sudden jackpot successes

This article is funny. It's like the feel-good inverse of a rage-bait article. It's stating what we all want to be true and cherry-picking two games that only sort of provide evidence towards it, and only if you squint really hard.

Both games are sequels backed by huge publishers with tons of cash.

BG3 is a Dungeons and Dragons franchise title; a franchise which recently received a massively successful film, a huge boost in popularity during a pandemic, and a boost in cultural relevance in Strange Things.

Helldivers 2 fits the claim a bit better, but it is still a sequel to a well received, well selling title. The extraction shooter genre is also exceedingly popular right now, and the fact that it has Games as a Service bullshit built in says that publishers weren't as hands-off as the article implies.

So the more realistic take-away from this is that good games with huge budgets for development AND marketing in reasonably popular genres can make a ton of money.

Which isn't saying much. And it certainly doesn't look like a sudden jackpot.

I don't know the answer but they pointed this out further in the press release:

However, it’s also important for us that Mastodon is one of the few, if not the only social media platform that operates out of the EU, and we would like to keep it that way.

I'd assume that this is for a reason, too. If it were advantageous to run your company out of the EU people would probably do so sometimes.

It's not the reviewer's fault! When they asked ChatGPT to peer review the paper it found nothing wrong.

You are describing the current situation in the fediverse, not a problem caused by the idea proposed.

Allowing for federated identity would also imply allowing migration of identity, which wholly prevents what you just described.

The current system is guaranteed to have larger instances where people won't want to leave because doing so abandons your identity.

If I could move around the fediverse freely I would do so, but that is not a feature that is supported so I stick to the largest instance which happens to be the one I chose. I am not unique in this. Obviously, or this instance wouldn't be so large.

Offering federated identity is only a better situation than today.

Imagine if login was a federated feature in lemmy.

What this would mean is that I could go to lemmy.ml and login using my lemmy.world account credentials and people from lemmy.ml could go to lemmy.world and log in using theirs.

Neither could go to beehaw and login because it does not federate with the two of them.

In this world I could create an identity on lemmy.world and a separate identity on lemmy.ml if I wanted to.

Now imagine if I could login with my lemmy.world account on a non lemmy platform that lemmy.world federates with.

There's nothing centralized about this, and it is exactly in the spirit of everything else in the fediverse. To login on beehaw I would have to create an identity on beehaw or someone they federate with.

What you seem to be against is forcing you to have only one login. That does go against the model we are talking about.

And it isn't what's being suggested.

Nothing about this idea implies centralization. There is no reason identity has to be tied to the platform using the identity and no reason why there needs to be a central identity store.

In fact, right now my identity IS centralized to lemmy.world and I have no control over that.

Your solution to create as many identities as you want is great for avoiding having one identity, but not an example of decentralized identity.

I would like to be able to have multiple, decentralized, identities.

You said you thought the vision pro was dead on day one because you see people complaining about its price.

Tell me you haven't used a Vision Pro without telling me that you haven't.

You are on the apple enthusiast community. I am pro-apple products but I don't tend to go to android forums and spread misinformation about their products, so perhaps you could give the same courtesy.

You are literally on a community called apple_enthusiast where all of the comments on all of the posts are negative towards Apple and you can't see any unfairness in that?

Perhaps you're just really biased?

• relase the server software to allow players host them themselves
• patch the game to not require company's server (even if not all features would be functional)
• allow people to create their own servers after official ones are dead (think private MMO servers)

Your petition doesn't allow for the second option (exactly how much functionality is allowed to be missing?), fyi, but let's ignore it for the moment.

Let's take a not uncommon case that causes games to shutdown: a company that ran out of money.

How do you do any of these things legally without paying your now jobless employees?

You need to either release the servers at the same time as the game, which has cost associated with it, or you need to hold funds up front to handle paying for the costs on the backend (i.e you need to pay an insurance premium).

My snarky point was comparing the "nobody goes there it's too crowded" joke to this.

My actual point is that literally every Apple product has people who don't buy them complaining about how expensive they are.

Elsewhere in this post's comments someone claimed that iPhones are raising in price and staying there (which is only true if you ignore inflation basically).

The XDR display and its stand had gamers everywhere furious, because their monitors were much cheaper and came with a stand included in the price!

If Apple were giving out free ice cream people would complain about how much it costs to add sprinkles.