GardenVarietyAnxiety @ GardenVarietyAnxiety @lemmy.world

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Yelling, in this context, is abuse. Full stop. But Google "understands" abuse as physical, and considering that:

Emotional abuse can and often does escalate, and The power dynamic alone gives men an overwhelming ability to escalate to physical abuse.

In the black and white world of math, that message is more relevant to women than men.

We have got to stop treating faceless corporations and their algorithms as people. They are not people. We have to treat google like an unemotional robot, because at the end of the day that's exactly what it is.

Look at the divisiveness here... This is rage, not progress.

I think you're absolutely right on all accounts, and the faster we educate ourselves about these issues the faster we can put enough societal pressure on google to change.

I don't feel like this kind of meme helps the conversation, though. You don't even have to look past the comments to see the divisiveness it's generated.

No one is telling you that here. I said nothing like that and Google is literally an algorithm.

If someone encouraging others to educate themselves so that fewer people have to know the pain you felt makes you feel like you matter less, and I mean this in a genuinely positive way, you might need to work on that.

That's fair.

Thanks for this. You summed up what I was trying to say nicely.

I didn't minimize anything. I pointed out how googles algorithm used statistics to deliver search results and then urged people to educate themselves about the issue to start building a foundation for meaningful change.

How did this meme help the conversation?

Do you think the comments seem divisive?

You had a very well reasoned and written response, and I disagree with virtually none of it. I just feel like posting emotionally provocative content like this hurts more than it helps, if it helps at all.

That being said I was citing statistics as a metric Google's algorithm uses to return results. Everything you said fits into the "We need to educate ourselves" portion of my initial reply.

Edit: I'm getting a lot of replies that seem to miss the point that I'm advocating -for- men...

As someone with life experience on both sides of this issue...

Seriously, this meme is bullshit. Yes, it is a fact that men are also on the receiving end of domestic abuse.

Statistically speaking, however, women get the lion's share of receiving it, while men are culturally groomed to be emotionally closed off. (At least here in the states)

Google is taking these statistics into account when returning search results in an attempt to get the most relevant information to the user.

Is that Google's problem or a larger cultural issue?

Does absolute equality in Google search results push the needle toward change?

Does posting a meme that highlights a "problem" lacking context (or purported purpose, as stated by OP in another comment) affect change in the way the issue is understood, or does it just serve to generate emotion and engagement?

If you (meaning anyone) genuinely want to affect change on this issue, you need to educate yourself on what's actually happening. Talk to your family and friends about it and lessen its impact on future generations.

Shit doesn't just change. We make it change.

No, THATS transphobic.

gottem

People love a good strawperson

I really need to watch Twin Peaks... It keeps coming up everywhere. From it's links to Persona to Zelda.

I was in a Dollar Tree not too long ago and the 19 year old cashier recommended it to me for almost no reason.

It's calling me.

Exactly!

That's very true

"A low bias video essay about the Manosphere by someone who seems to genuinely care about the topic."

I was hesitant to click on it due to the name, but I'm glad my curiosity got the better of me.

That was really good. It's always refreshing to see a level headed opinion on divisive topics like this.

Honestly, I think most homophobia comes from envy... Of course you're going to be furious watching others live the life you can't due to undue shame.

Misery loves company.

How do real, living breathing people continue to -watch- this garbage?

It looks fun enough, but I'm keeping expectations low. It has a "This is what a successful, funny movie is like, right? Right?" vibe, imo.

Its... an incredibly powerful tool, but people don't know how it works.

But also it works by triggering the placebo effect.

The people "selling it" don't know. Or at least likely don't know. It's trendy right now, definitely.

After that, though, you're asking for studies that are virtually impossible to conduct as your bar for proof, reinforced your bias, drew your own conclusion, and dismissed my position as extreme.

I can't provide black and white data for you, with the exception of maybe placebo effect studies. But what I can provide for you is experience and understanding of how our brains work. And you can take it with a grain of salt, as I'm not classically educated, but it really is just breaking down common observable behaviors.

I'm not a "Manifester," but I've used the basic methodology to see change in my own life with things I've struggled with for years. You can call it manifesting, positive thinking, discipline, whatever. It just takes convincing yourself of something. This greatly increases the odds of that outcome by putting your subconscious to work on achieving it.

I can do it, you can do it, anyone can do it. And it. Kicks. Ass.

Look I totally am for a reasonable amount of positive self affirmation and self confidence.

But manifesting takes it to literally absurd lengths.

People. People take manifesting to absurd lengths. Also, you guys seem to be seeing this on TikTok? The app is designed to show you extreme positions that keep you engaged... You're gonna see the weirdos.

Big time! Good call