GarbageShoot [he/him] @ GarbageShoot @hexbear.net

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What's the new community?

Do you have anything but the most condescending and one-sided "solidarity" for a people who support their government?

Why's she flexing about a paper that a white male couldn't understand?

???

Were the trade unionists the ones immolating unarmed soldiers and stringing up their corpses?

see Tienamin Square

I'm looking it up, and I don't see any "Tienanmin Square". Could it be "Tiananmen Square" that you're thinking of? The one protesting government corruption? Where unarmed soldiers were burned alive? Where Christian sickos were trying to get students in the line of fire to create atrocity propaganda? Surely there must be some confusion here!

I can't quite tell if this is a parody, the trade union bit makes it seem sincere, but the self-importance to think that lemmy is too left for China to allow is just amazing.

Glad to see people seem to be behind the idea, though I guess the issue of having too many pins is always a thing. Hopefully it's able to get enough activity to compensate in the algorithm like it has before.

"liberal" here is an unmarked term that thereby refers to both a broad group and a specific subset of it, like how "man" can mean both "humans generally" and "males specifically". Furthermore, most "apolitical" people are just casual liberals rather than dedicated ones, because we live in a neoliberal society.

VOTE THEM OUT

Can I persuade you to actually read Luxemburg, instead of just embodying the West German co-opting of her? Specifically, I'm thinking of Sozialreform oder Revolution?

I don't think it's especially productive to kill people when imprisoning them is easy, as it would be with the resources in America, but I don't see why you are clutching your pearls this hard at a butcher of countless thousands being killed.

Neoliberals yet again refusing to consider someone could disagree with them and still be sane, instead resorting to calling all opposition crazy or paid actors.

And everyone shouldn't have to hold up the conversation to preemptively explain what the word means to those who don't already know

Well, if you know that the person doesn't know, giving definitions can be a helpful way of setting up your argument, but obviously these lemmitor assholes are just wasting your time.

You could use "corporatism" which has kind of taken over that definition in common language

No one says "corporatism" in the real world. The better suggestion for an "alternative" is to just say "capitalism", because that's accurate enough.

Dictionaries do not exhaustively discuss topics and the scope of meanings of terms, they give you a colloquially-oriented summary of what they mean to help you, for example, parse a conversation that uses the word in passing.

John Locke being a liberal isn't an "alternative fact", you're just a troglodyte.

Take it up with oxford

My point is that you are misusing the dictionary as a replacement for actually knowing about a subject. People still call John Locke a liberal, and they do it because fields have definitions that aren't colloquial.

This discussion is about the current meaning of Liberalism in today's political context.

Look anywhere outside of America and it readily refers to sniveling market-fetishists. In America it only implicitly does because everyone is a market fetishist.

Is it though?

Yes, it is responsible for those things, like when we say smoking is associated with higher risk of lung cancer.

In the common consciousness?

Moving the goalposts. Good job observing that liberal propaganda takes credit for good things and not for bad things.

Though outside of America, you get a much more accurate view of the term because liberal means "sniveling, centrist, market-fetishist" in most other countries.

If one is trying to define liberalism against feudalism, that definition is fine, but it's just redditor sophomorism to act like a dictionary is a replacement for an actual historical or academic definition of a political tendency.

Democracy is (in part) when you tell the fascists to eat shit, yes.

It's basically just "classical liberalism and neoliberalism", and whether politically illiterate Americans use that word that way doesn't matter very much from an analytical standpoint, because in political science, history, philosophy, and even just popular discourse in most other countries, the term "liberal" mainly has that meaning.

Along with it's deep flaws, Liberalism is also associated with things like the abolition of slavery . . .

Liberalism is also associated with the invention and virtually entire existence of chattel slavery along with the exporting of the criminalization of queer people to cultures that did not feature such things.