GarbageShoot [he/him] @ GarbageShoot @hexbear.net

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Capital flight only exists where it is allowed to exist. It is possible and, in fact, advisable to have laws allowing for the seizure of assets in such a scenario.

But there are some logistical difficulties involved in holding an election in a country currently being invaded, especially with the invasion being broadly successful.

Is that also why they banned all those opposition parties? They were just getting in the way of executing the war?

Russia did hold elections and is "liberal democratic" but Russia has hardly been turned into a warzone in the same way. There are probably other examples worth citing.

No need to resort to incoherent name-calling.

Russia invaded Ukraine, but war is not genocide, as much as the banderite government likes to turn everything into genocide to minimize their history of the original Banderites and other collaborators perpetrating the actual Holocaust.

If Russia wanted to carry out the war in a way that involved genocide, just carpet-bombing cities or things like that, it absolutely could, it has maybe the second or third strongest air force in the world. Luckily for everyone involved (other than perhaps frontline Russians), Russia knows that it shouldn't do that, and so it isn't.

I don't see why you feel the need to so readily call people who disagree with you fascists. I don't think you're a fascist, I just think you're a well-meaning individual who was tricked by the PR of a liberal-fascist alliance. What would make me a fascist? I certainly don't like Russia, I don't have some fantasy of the Eurasian peninsula united under the Russian Federation. I'm not here to tell you that Putin is a good guy, he's a mafioso like you see at the head of most liberal states. I've got no problem with people speaking Ukrainian, though I sure wish they'd find a better national hero than, it must be repeated, a literal perpetrator of the Holocaust, but I also think those weirdos in Russia who worship the pogromist Tsar Nicholas II should get a better idol as well. Please, tell me what kind of fascist I am.

The closest thing to genocide in Ukraine is the conscription carried out by the banderite government for the meat grinder of an unwinnable war.

They know, but the person they originally responded to is making a faulty inference in the form of "pigs = mammals, mammals emerged at X date, pigs emerged at X date". They aren't properly recognizing that eggs are a distinct subset of unicellular organism (which I also think isn't actually true of fertilized eggs) and you can't infer from the set "unicellular organisms" having a trait that "eggs" has the same trait.

Isn't there a version of this with like 5 intersecting thought experiments?

The only thing it's useful for is an approximate answer to the question "Who does the Economist Group want to lionize?"

but works alot more like the type of socialism that's common in Europe.

i.e. not the socialism of Marx

but I still think the Nordic countries are what most people would refere to as at least a little bit socialist.

If you ignore that country with 1.4 billion people and a few others, i.e. the majority of country calling their countries socialist.

Maybe the proper term is social democratic?

Yes, that is the proper term

Only one of those four is white, and it's a classic reactionary tactic to downplay him compared to the Georgian and the older Han Chinese example

Because authority carried out under the pretenses of private property is whitewashed in liberal states, who are the ones in your question doing the "considering".

idk, seems fine to me.

Always neat to see another fan of CSB/Woolie around. I haven't seen your instance name before, at least that I can remember.

Main one worth sharing is Blowback. The rest are comedy slop.

Why even bother responding if that's all you have to say?

You're failing to separate "Ukraine" the concept of a nation from "Ukraine" the government from "Ukraine" the group of people. In material terms, if life as part of the Russian Federation is comparable to life as an independent Ukraine (and Crimea was doing alright when there wasn't much fighting), what does a war accomplish? Especially a war that the Ukrainian military was always going to lose. The end result is, as Yogthos said, incredible human suffering without even accomplishing the worthless task of keeping your preferred flag flying.

Now, I don't actually agree that Russia wants to annex all of Ukraine. I think they want to break the back of the military and annex as much of Ukraine as votes to join them, but handling the colonial occupation of a country that wants to secede (like Ukraine had been doing with Donbas) is not in its interests. That said, even if they just wanted to take over the whole of Ukraine, a negotiated peace that wins concessions for human welfare would, in every respect, be a superior result to a losing war unless you're a dog of the west and see damage to Russia as worth throwing generations into a meat grinder.

Edit: The reason why, to pick an example you probably are inclined towards, it was reasonable to fight desperately against the Nazis is twofold: One, the occupation represented a disastrous change for many, many inhabitants, such that few families would be untouched by the genocide (to say nothing of the national looting). Two, the Nazis were always likely to lose in the end because of their unstable model of operation, with many powerful enemies, meaning that one's own hopeless personal resistance contributed to the broader anti-Nazi struggle that would indeed come to a successful conclusion.

I've already said in so many words that Russian occupation is unlike Nazi occupation, and Russia does not seem poised to lose as the Nazis were, it's being careful about who it attacks and when, while continuing to cultivate stable alliances with other countries great and small in the imperial periphery and semi-periphery. The fight of the Ukrainian military both has nothing useful it could accomplish and no prospect of contributing to Russia's downfall (nor is there much reason Russia should be taken down ahead of the western bloc). It's pointless.

I mean, they still do, he's like the most singled-out poster between our instances that I know of.

Me too, but I'd guess that it's because Ukraine is a somewhat younger country, since the US stopped using the draft in '73, about two decades before the current Ukrainian government was established, so they are operating on very different standards. Just a guess, though.

In fairness, the US isn't drafting people, let alone consigning draftees to certain death like Zelensky here is doing. It's probably my prejudice from the US draft age, but I'm surprised the minimum is so high still in Ukraine considering how desperate they are to field more men.

Obviously the US consigns plenty of people to certain death, but not by drafting them.