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  • If NASA had as many rockets explode as SpaceX has, people like you would be screaming about the waste of taxpayer dollars.

    The point of the launches that have ended in explosion were to test various parts of the systems and hardware, and to learn if/when a "disaster" does happen. That's how you improve things, make them better and safer. Would you prefer when we finally send people to the moon or to Mars that it's the first time we've launched that rocket? Those explosions weren't bad things.

  • And isn't it amazing how little government entities can do despite being given the same or more taxpayer dollars from the federal teat?

    Private enterprise gets shit done because if they don't they go out of business and people lose their jobs, money, and livelihood. Government departments don't get shit done because they'll all keep their jobs and their pensions and their benefits no matter what. Again - NASA vs SpaceX.

  • It's not up to SpaceX to stop taking government handouts - it's up to the government to stop giving handouts.

    I agree with you - they shouldn't get public funding. IMO anything the government funds they should own instead, but this doesn't mean they should take ownership of the things that they fund - they should instead use that funding to start their own taxpayer owned competitor.

    I'm completely against government handouts for private business and NGOs btw.

  • You haven't put your eggs in any basket. SpaceX are a private company. The government owns NASA, they can pour money into that and hire people to do what SpaceX are doing. Hell, they could poach people from SpaceX!

    Why do you think they haven't already done this? Because the government don't care about it. If someone else will do it they can use them to provide their services via ludicrously expensive contracts, and give them massive subsidies, as is the Government way.

    The government taking over SpaceX is not something anyone with even half a brain should be wanting. It makes ZERO sense. It doesn't matter who owns it privately, just not the government because they will fuck it up and/or neglect it - like they did with NASA and most of their other projects.

  • It’s hilarious seeing all these “anti oligarch” people come out of the woodwork now that it’s a catchphrase of their political party, despite that party being run by oligarchs.

    Like you said, this is how the world has been essentially forever. People are only against it now that their teams oligarchs are upset that they aren’t in as much control as usual.

  • The problem would be that nationalising them in this day and age would mean prices would get even worse for everyone, as the government having a monopoly on these things would mean they can charge whatever they want, and with the amount of debt and deficit they have, they’d charge a lot.

  • Not the person you commented on, but think about the reason why people are wanting SpaceX to be nationalised when NASA exists and is already Government owned.

    SpaceX is light years, pardon the pun, ahead of NASA. If SpaceX was taken over by the government, SpaceX would likely end up like NASA as it would be taken over by the same people and have mountains more red tape in order to do anything. It would destroy SpaceX and put space exploration back decades.

  • You don’t nationalise a company (SpaceX) just because the existing government owned company (NASA) is significantly worse. What do you think would happen to SpaceX if they did nationalise it? Lol. It would go to hell, like NASA.

    The government should not be responsible for things like this. The government should provide services for necessities for human rights and general standards of living, but they shouldn’t take over successful companies just because they couldn’t do it themselves.

  • Those are different to taking over private companies. The government should, imo, compete against private enterprise in those areas, in turn bringing prices down and making it better for the taxpayers.

    NASA is government owned. Look at the state of it. Do you think the government taking over SpaceX would really be a good thing?

  • These things only exist and are as good as they are because they’re not government owned and run.

    Look at NASA compared to SpaceX to see why this would be an absolutely terrible move. Government is where projects like these go to die, while making every politician and contractor involved filthy rich.

  • That would literally be the worse thing that could happen with regards to them, because they only exist and thrived because they are private enterprise. If the government were capable of doing what those companies do and doing it well, SpaceX and Starlink wouldn’t exist in the first place.

    Can you even imagine just how much money would be wasted and misused and unaccounted for, while nothing actually got done?

    Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is delusional

  • Almost every person I’ve had an argument/discussion with who goes through my past comments to try and find things to use against me when they’re losing has been someone who goes back and deleted all of their comments. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

  • I addressed them first by saying that with decentralised there are just *more * mods who can and will ban you unfairly and with no recourse, and other mods/admin who literally get to decide what instances you can even see in the first place. Most of them just defederate from any instance that doesn’t highly censor views they don’t like. Many already decided to defederate from any meta instances that ever join the fediverse ffs.

    Lemmy moderation is even more authoritarian because of how Lemmy started in the first place, and then because of the mods who moved from Reddit to here. They hated that their power was taken away on Reddit so they jumped ship and now get to make their own rules without having to answer to Reddit admins.

    If you don’t ban people they don’t need to create multiple accounts. You just block and move on and they’ll continue doing their thing while you don’t see it. Win-win.

    You’re a typical “everyone I disagree with is a Nazi bigot” who craves censorship and authoritarian leadership because you can’t handle people having differing opinions by the looks of it. You talk as if “Nazis” are everywhere lol. If you can’t even be in the same virtual space as a “nazi” without losing your mind the issue is with you.