FfaerieOxide @ FfaerieOxide @kbin.social

I've been called "a giant faggot" but I'm medium at most. ♥️

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Great, now we just need to establish whether AI art is "bad for society"

That seems fairly evident

You're the one who brought fast food into this.

You were fine engaging fastfood until I pointed out it, like AI " art " was terrible. Only then did you deride the metaphor as off topic.

Should we also have a single wise man to decide which is which?

Well we certainly shouldn't have violence for violence, as is the Rule of Beasts.

Things that are bad for society should be suppressed and things which are good for society should be promoted. That would seem to be the point of a society.

Further, I notice a pastern in your replies of bringing up metaphor then rejecting the very metaphor as off topic or irrelevant when it is engaged to it's logical conclusion.

No accusing you of engaging in bad faith or anything, but it smells (sorry, metaphor again) less-than-fresh.

Fast food provides a new option.

Fast food damages the health of society and impoverishes communities.

I just notice alot of cheerleaders for this " art " form come from a place of vindictiveness against people with artistic talent and their positions are rooted more in a desire to see people the view as gatekeepers receive comeuppance than an honest defense of an ostensive tool.

It can't really be both.

It totally can. Take the example of fast food. Simultaneously a threat to traditional cooking and terrible.

This isn’t a poisonous gas we’re talking about. Air is 78% nitrogen

Apparently it's deadly enough to kill at least 1 guy. You also can't see it.

I would say the risk of a gas spreading and affecting more than an intended target is greater than the risk someone will accidentally stab themselves in the head.

You raise a good point about fluids, but I think the danger from that can be mitigated with protective clothing to a greater degree than the next safest (for the administrator) option of a bullet can have its inherent danger of exploding at or near the wrong place be mitigated.

If euthanasia was legal, should prisoners be given the option?

I have no idea how to square the inherent coercion of either capitalism or incarceration (or often both) affecting the choice but everyone has the right to end their own existence whenever they want.

TBH I am following the news on this because a cheap, legal and easy way out of I get dementia would be reassuring.

Legal is irrelevant if the method is successful. What are they gonna do, throw your corpse in prison?

Second, I wouldn't follow news on state murder to determine how to go out yourself but as a bit of free advice apparently they put just enough oxygen in those helium canisters consumers can buy to stop people doing what you're thinking that way.

When I say safe, I mean to the ones administering.

Gas can leak out and kill people. Gas is also invisible.

Were administrator safety one's sole concern you got to think a blade to the throat beats out gas. As in Kashrut or Halal butchering.

There are plenty of ways to die without suffering, the most popular one being a morphine overdose, used in plenty of hospices when they give a patient a button to self-medicate until they pass out/away.

Self medicate. The inherent difference is execution involves an unwilling participant.

People, even whole families, keep dying in their sleep from CO poisoning every winter all over the world…

Those people are not strapped down in prison.

If they really wanted to kill without torturing, they would’ve done it.

That isn't possible. The very act of execution is torture.

Are you mad at people who can draw or something?

Ah, it was the third option, ignorance.

Oh, I'm not at all ignorant of how horrible generative " art " is, but I appreciate you checking on me.

Is that hatred, or fear, that I hear in this comment?

That's "suppressing theft masquerading as art is awesome" you hear in that comment.

I’d at least rather we try not to torture people while we do it.

There is no way to accomplish that. Execution is inherently cruel and there is no non-tortuous way to carry it out.

It’s so weird how many people are so against Nitrogen asphyxiation when it should be one of the easiest, cheapest, and safest methods.

There is inherently no safe way to kill someone and no method should be pursued regardless. Killing captive people is wrong.

This is just going to beg for regulations that is going to ruin the generative AI world

Awesome.

If the shoe fits…

Are...you asking if I'd fuck a shoe?

Are you asking if I would fuck a Russian? 🤨

given that capital punishment will occur

I don't give that. I don't give it a bit. Especially if holes can be poked in every new method as these ghouls come up with it

There is no reason to acquiesce to an inevitability that it will occur just because shitstains keep trying to execute people. I remember it was decades wasn't a single execution in The United States.

"what is the least bad way to do it?”

There isn't one, and every single method should be objected to as it comes up.

And I said they are different procedures. Someone intending to die in a pod is not the same as attempting to force someone to die strapping a mask to their face.

A person in a suicide pod is cooperating with the process not biting and scratching for precious life, potentially causing oxygen to leak into the mask and cause excruciating suffering.

I am not saying it is immoral to kill prisoners so you shouldn't use this method (although I say now it is immoral to kill prisoners and you shouldn't ever do it by this or any other method).

I am saying this method does not work for executions and you can't use it for its intended end.